Africa
(Poverty) (30/06/05)
The
Secretary of State for International Development (Hilary Benn):
I am
sure that the whole House will welcome the opportunity in the week before
the G8 summit to discuss the great moral and practical challenge that our
generation faces: eradicating poverty in Africa. I cannot not recall a
time when poverty in Africa, its causes and what we can do about it were
the subject of so much debate and public attention. The Make Poverty
History campaign and its many supporters, and many hon. Members on both
sides of the House, including members of the International Development
Committee, the all-party group on Africa and the other all-party groups,
deserve our heartfelt thanks for achieving that.
There is
growing recognition that it is both our moral duty to help to change the
condition of humankind, and in our self-interest to do so in an
interdependent world. Many people will be in Edinburgh or at one of the
Live 8 concerts this weekend because they want the G8 to act and believe
that it is possible to do something. That is a message of hope, and it is
certainly the best defence against cynicism, because if cynicism were ever
to take hold in the fight against global poverty, we would be lost. It
should also encourage us in our task. I wish to speak today about what
needs to be done.
The facts
about poverty in Africa are a reproach to every single one of us. Some 315
million people in sub-Saharan Africa—nearly half the population—live on
less than a dollar a day. Some 40 million of its children are not today
where they should be—in school. Some 250 million Africans do not have safe
water to drink or proper sanitation and 6 million men, women and children
died last year of entirely treatable diseases such as AIDS, tuberculosis
and malaria. We can no longer claim that we do not know that that is
happening. We understand what needs to be done, and there has never been a
better time to act, because Africa itself is making progress and changing.
The
establishment of the African Union, with its principle of
non-indifference, has seen interventions in Darfur, Togo and the Central
African Republic which frankly would have been unthinkable only a decade
ago. There are fewer conflicts. Since 1999, peace agreements have brought
to an end 10 of Africa's major wars. More leaders are being democratically
elected. Governance is improving. Thanks to the New Partnership for
Africa's Development, since 2003 23 African countries have agreed to have
their economic, political, social and corporate governance critically
reviewed through the Africa peer review mechanism. Last week, the first
assessments on Ghana and Rwanda were discussed by African Heads of State.
The leaders of those two countries will respond to the recommendations in
the summer. I will place copies of the reports in the Library of the House
as soon as they are available. We should commend Presidents Kufuor and
Kagame for their openness and readiness to acknowledge the need for
change.
We are also seeing action to combat corruption, most recently in Zambia
and South Africa, and in Nigeria, where President Obasanjo is making a
significant break with the past. More than $700 million of corrupt assets
have been seized. Three Ministers and three judges have been sacked. One
judge has been suspended. The Senate President has been forced to resign,
and the inspector general of police has been arrested.
I am sure
that the House will welcome the steps that are taking place in Nigeria—a
country that suffered so grievously over the past generation, from
corruption, bad governance and military dictatorship. I am also sure that
the House will welcome the news of an agreement to deal with Nigeria's
debt which was reached by the Paris Club yesterday. That is proof that
reform brings benefits. Now is the time for all of us to support the
reformers in Africa.
Mr.
Andrew Robathan (Blaby) (Con):
The right hon. Gentleman knows that I have a high respect for him, and we
have discussed the issues once or twice before. When he says that there is
moral challenge to us all, I agree with him. When he says that poverty
reproaches each one of us, I agree with him. However, surely more than
anyone it reproaches the other rulers who are not making progress—those in
Zimbawe, who are not criticised by Mbeki in South Africa, and those across
the continent of Africa, where next to no progress is being made,
including, I regret to say, Ethiopia, whose Prime Minister was a member of
the Commission for Africa.
Hilary
Benn:
I accept the
hon. Gentleman's point and I shall come to those two countries directly
because if we are going to do the right things to help, we have to tell
the whole truth and nothing but the truth about the condition of Africa.
We are
also seeing economic progress. Average GDP growth in 2004 was the highest
in eight years. Mozambique has cut poverty by a third in the past 15 years
and has doubled the number of children in school. Uganda has cut poverty
by half and reduced the incidence of HIV by two thirds. We all know,
however, that progress is not seen everywhere across Africa. On current
trends, the millennium development goals will not be reached for another
100, or in some cases 150, years. The people who need the progress that
the goals represent will be dead by then. They cannot wait that long.
Africa
suffers from a lack of capacity. Many countries simply do not have enough
money to pay the salaries of doctors, nurses and teachers, or to buy the
drugs that are needed to fight the AIDS pandemic that is killing so many
people—2.5 million Africans died last year of AIDS—and threatens economic
development. It is not just a human tragedy, but potentially an economic
catastrophe.
Ethiopia,
which has achieved great success in reducing poverty and getting more
children into school, is involved in a terrible struggle, with loss of
life and arrests as a result of its election process. The fact that there
is no result to the Ethiopian elections should concern us all. Governments
in Sudan and Zimbabwe have shown a shameful contempt for human rights, in
one case killing their own citizens and in the other bulldozing families
out of their homes. I applaud what the African Union has done in Sudan,
and I very much regret its silence on Zimbabwe. I hope that that will
change.
Mr.
David Drew (Stroud) (Lab/Co-op):
I thank my right hon. Friend on behalf of the associate parliamentary
group for Sudan for addressing us so shortly after his return from Sudan.
It is pleasing to see at one level what is beginning to happen via the AU
in Darfur. However, the right hon. Gentleman will know that another
tragedy is opening up in the east of the country, around Port Sudan. There
has been rebel activity and, as before, the Government are overreacting.
Will he talk to the Foreign Secretary to determine whether preventive
action is needed now, so that we stop the tragedy of the north-south
divide occurring again and ensure that there is not another scar on the
face of Africa?
Hilary
Benn:
I will do
that. My hon. Friend takes a close interest in Sudan. The conflict in the
east and in Darfur demonstrates that although there is the north-south
civil war, which has cost so many lives, in other parts of Sudan people
want political participation and the chance to develop. The importance of
the comprehensive peace agreement that was negotiated is that it provides
the framework on wealth sharing and sharing political power, which offers
the hope of finding a solution to the conflicts elsewhere in the country.
In the end, it is up to the politicians to stop fighting, to start talking
and to find that solution.
Although
we rightly deplore what is happening in those countries where progress is
not being made, they do not represent the whole of Africa. We cannot allow
the actions of some Governments to jeopardise the future of the entire
continent when African Governments elsewhere are increasingly
demonstrating their commitment to change and when we can see the
difference that aid makes.
The
United Kingdom is helping to lead the debate on how aid can best be
allocated. In the right circumstances, we should give our aid in a way
that allows African Governments to decide how best to use it in line with
their priorities to get children into school, to improve health care and
to tackle poverty. In many countries, that means budget support. Where
that is not possible, however, our aid will support sectoral programmes in
health and education. We are also trying to improve predictability of
aid—for example, by the 10-year agreements that we have reached with
Rwanda, Sierra Leone and Tanzania. In every case, we assess the risk and
put in appropriate safeguards against corruption. We are also working with
countries to strengthen and improve their public financial management,
because we have to be sure that we can demonstrate that the money reaches
the poor.
We know
that aid works. In Ghana, 15 years of aid to education has resulted in a
10 per cent. increase in enrolment and an increase from one third to four
fifths in the number of primary school graduates who have acquired
literacy skills.
Mrs.
Nadine Dorries (Mid-Bedfordshire) (Con):
The right hon. Gentleman talks of aid and includes Zambia as one of the
countries that is making progress. The World Health Organisation predicts
that by 2010 the average age of a Zambian will be 24. Twenty years ago the
average age was 60. How can that be progress?
Hilary
Benn:
The
reference to Zambia related to tackling corruption. It has an enormous
AIDS problem. One reason why we need more aid, and debt cancellation, for
countries like Zambia is so that they have the resources they need to buy
the drugs and employ the doctors and the nurses to prevent the catastrophe
that the hon. Lady rightly mentions. That is why we need to do more.
In
Tanzania, budget support has increased the number of children in primary
school from just over 4 million to 7 million in recent years. Nine out of
10 children now go to school. Uganda has used budget support to abolish
health-user fees for primary health care. It has recruited an extra 3,000
trained health workers. Immunisation rates for children under five have
risen from 40 to 80 per cent.
Aid
works. That is why the Commission for Africa called for a doubling of aid
from $25 billion to $50 billion by 2010. We know that without it Africa
will not meet the millennium development goals. The commission was clear
on that. We need that aid to improve infrastructure, to invest in people,
education and health, to tackle AIDS and to create conditions for private
sector investment. Above all, we need a big push now. The most powerful
message for our debate today is that all of Africa's development
challenges are linked, and that success will come about only if they are
all addressed together.
The UK's
contribution has involved leadership, and the Prime Minister's decision to
set up the Africa Commission and to make Africa the heart of our G8
presidency. However, we are also giving practical help with a rising aid
budget, and we have now set a timetable for achieving the 0.7 per cent.
target by 2013. Europe's contribution will be particularly significant.
The agreement that EU development Ministers reached just over a month ago
will double Europe's development assistance between now and 2010, and will
on its own deliver two thirds of the $25 billion a year additional aid to
Africa that the Commission for Africa recommends. Canada has announced
that it will double its aid to Africa by 2008, and Japan will do so by
2007. President Bush will make an announcement today about further
contributions from the United States.
Mr.
Laurence Robertson (Tewkesbury) (Con):
Will the Secretary of State do his utmost to ensure that the aid from the
European Union starts to return to the poorest countries? He will be well
aware that the EU's record of delivering aid to those countries is
regrettable. It has never been good, but it has got worse in recent years.
Hilary
Benn:
I agree with
the hon. Gentleman. The EU aid deal to which I referred represents the
commitments of the 15 member states through their bilateral programmes. In
addition, there is the European Community's development programme, and we
and others are fighting to see more of that going to the world's poorest
countries. I believe that there is support across the whole House for
that.
Andrew
George (St. Ives) (LD):
The Secretary of State will have seen in The
Times
this morning that the International Monetary Fund has produced two reports
that question the premise that aid makes a significant contribution to
economic growth. What response will he and his Department make to the IMF
in that regard?
Hilary
Benn:
The case for
aid is not so much the difference it makes to economic growth but the
difference it makes to saving people's lives and to getting children into
school. Aid on its own will not deliver the economic growth that Africa
requires if the continent is to be transformed. However, we should not let
the IMF report dampen our commitment to increasing aid, because we can all
see the benefit of so doing.
Mr.
David S. Borrow (South Ribble) (Lab):
Over the next few weeks, a lot of promises will be made about aid for
Africa, and we need to ensure that those promises are kept. We must ensure
that the aid that is promised by countries across the world materialises
in the years to come. There are too many of examples of that not
happening; bold promises have been made, and poor people have lost out
because they have not been kept.
Hilary
Benn:
I could not
agree more. The best people to hold to account the Governments who make
those commitments are the Parliaments and the electorates of those
countries, and the more loudly people express their concern about
development and their anger about poverty, the better chance we have of
ensuring that those commitments are turned into cash and practical help.
The other
big step forward that we have seen is the agreement on debt cancellation,
negotiated with such skill by my right hon. Friend the Chancellor of the
Exchequer. It potentially involves $55 billion-worth of debt cancellation,
so that developing countries—many of which are in Africa—will no longer be
faced with the terrible choice between making monthly repayments that they
cannot afford and using the money to buy AIDS drugs and to employ the
doctors, nurses and teachers who will make a difference to so many
people's lives.
Aid and
debt relief will help, but, as the hon. Member for St. Ives (Andrew
George) said, Africa will not meet the millennium development goals
without faster economic growth. We want to see African economies and their
share of world trade double in the next few years, which means increasing
their opportunities to participate in the global trading system, investing
in infrastructure and reducing the cost of transport. One of the most
striking statistics among the many in the Africa Commission's report
illustrates that, while it costs $1,500 to transport a car from Japan to
Abidjan in west Africa, it costs $5,000 to move it on from Abidjan to
Addis Ababa. The high cost of transport in Africa is one of the factors
that gets in the way of economic growth and development.
Everyone
in the Chamber knows that our greatest opportunity to enable Africa to
break free from the chains of poverty will be at the World Trade
Organisation talks in Hong Kong in December. Unless we do everything that
needs to be done to allow Africa to trade on fairer terms with the rest of
the world, we will deny it the best hope that it has of changing the lives
of its people for the better.
My final
point is about partnership, because, in the end, there has to be a
commitment on both sides. I have spoken about the contribution that the
richer world can make, but Africa, too, has a responsibility to provide
peace, stability and good governance. One reason why we should have hope
is precisely that in recent years Africa has demonstrated through NEPAD
and the African Union its determination to live up to that responsibility.
A
fortnight ago, I was in Rumbek, in southern Sudan, where one in four
children die before they reach five years of age and three quarters of all
adults cannot read. I do not think I have ever been to a place that has so
little. It has been impoverished, brutalised and traumatised by Africa's
longest-running civil war, which has claimed 2.5 million lives. I met a
group of villagers who had walked from Khartoum to Rumbek, which had taken
more than two months. I particularly remember talking to a young woman by
the name of Josefina, who was 19, and her brother Stephen, who was 11.
Their mother had abandoned them and they had walked to Rumbek with their
fellow villagers. I asked Josefina whether Stephen went to school, and she
said he did not. When I asked why, she told me that the only school in
Rumbek charged fees, and she had no money to pay them. Only with the peace
deal will Rumbek and southern Sudan have the chance of a better future. As
part of our obligation, we are providing more than £100 million to Sudan
this year, in addition to the support that we are giving to the peace
mission in Darfur.
Only
through peace and stability will southern Sudan have the chance of a
better future. The situation there teaches us that, even with the doubling
of aid, the cancellation of debt and the opportunity of fairer trade, if
people continue to fight one another, there will be no development or
progress. Sudan and other countries remind us of that challenge. That is
why we are right to provide support to build African capacity and to
undertake more peace support operations across the continent. That is also
why we are right to put money into education, so that people like Stephen
in southern Sudan can have the chance to go to school. That is why we are
right to put in money to meet the financing gap in regard to the fight
against HIV and AIDS, and why Britain will be hosting the replenishment
conference for the global fund in September.
In the
end, this is all about one thing. It is about building capacity, without
which Africa will not be able to tap its potential. Its countries need
good governance, an independent judiciary, a lively civil society, and
civil servants with skills. They need to fight corruption and to create a
climate in which people from Africa and beyond will want to invest their
money. In the end, capacity is about Governments who are able to deliver,
and about people who have an expectation that their Government might be
able to do something to improve their lives. I learned that lesson more
forcefully than anywhere else on my first visit to the Democratic Republic
of the Congo, when President Kabila told me that the challenge that his
country faced was not to restore people's faith in the Government but to
persuade them, for the very first time in their lives, that there might be
something called a Government who had something to offer them. Above all,
the future of Africa rightly lies in the hands of its people and their
Governments.
There are
many hon. Members in the Chamber today, and I look forward to hearing what
they have to say. They will know that Africa is as full of potential,
creativity, talent and hope as any other continent on the planet, and
those qualities are waiting for the opportunity to be set free. We need to
see Africa in all its complexity. If people continue to look at it as a
continent only of war, pestilence, famine, disease and starvation, we will
not see the real Africa underneath that is struggling to come up. In the
end, it is the power of the political process in African countries and in
the world that offers us the best hope of a better future. What is
remarkable about the people who will gather in Scotland this weekend is
that they look to the G8 and the political process to change things for
the better.
Pete
Wishart (Perth and North Perthshire) (SNP):
Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
Hilary
Benn:
If the hon.
Gentleman will allow me, I shall conclude. Many Members want to speak, and
I want to allow as much time as possible for them to do so.
People
have demonstrated at some G8 summits because they do not want the G8 and
do not like what it stands for—they want it to get out of town. We should
draw enormous comfort from the fact that that is not the case this time.
People hope that politics will demonstrate its capacity to change things
for the better. It is, after all, how we as a country transformed
ourselves over the past 400 or 500 years. Life expectancy used to be
short, few people went to school, we did not have a health service and
there was crushing, grinding poverty. If our forebears and ancestors came
back, they would be astonished by the society that we have built for
ourselves through a process of political, social and economic development.
The people of Africa want exactly the same opportunity for themselves and
their families so that they can build a better future and pass it on to
the next generation. Our obligation is to do all that we have in our power
to help them to bring about that better future.
Mr.
Andrew Mitchell (Sutton Coldfield) (Con):
A number of factors converge to focus the eyes of the world on Gleneagles
next week. Britain holds the presidencies of the G8 and the European
Union; we will have a strong voice at the World Trade Organisation talks
in December; and it is the 20th anniversary of Live Aid. Thanks to a well
organised and positive campaign, the public's desire to make poverty
history has become an almost tangible force in the run-up to next week's
summit. That presents the leaders of the eight most powerful nations with
a great opportunity but also with a great challenge.
Next week
in Edinburgh, it is not only the heads of African Government who will be
held to account but the leaders of the richest, most powerful countries in
the west, as the public are keen to see their spirit of compassion and
good will reflected in the actions of their leaders. They are watching to
see that in this year of opportunity politicians live up to the task, so
that generosity is matched by the determination to ensure that every penny
released for development is spent properly. Good intentions must be
translated into effective results on the ground. Next week, the G8 leaders
must channel the tremendous good will over the past few months into
effective action for the world's poor. If they do not do so, they will
fail the 30,000 African children who die unnecessarily every day, and they
will fail the people of their own nations who demand real and effective
action.
Accountability is the key, and that is what the Opposition will push for.
The Conservative party fully welcomes the current political landscape of
consensus on development issues. As the Secretary of State knows, we stand
foursquare behind him on the Government's push for a comprehensive deal on
aid, trade and debt. I am delighted by the emergence of a united British
agenda on international development. I pay tribute to my predecessors,
including my hon. Friend the Member for Buckingham (John Bercow), who is
in the Chamber today, as they have worked hard to secure that unity of
purpose. I am proud to have been appointed to my current post at a time of
such opportunity. This is not a party political issue, and we will not
seek to oppose for opposition's sake. However, the debate must be more
than merely an exchange of pleasantries. While we commend the spirit of
the Government's approach, the Opposition think that there are things
missing from it. There is a serious danger that the Government will focus
too much on headline figures and inputs, and not enough on ensuring that
those inputs translate into concrete improvements in the lives of the
poor. That would offer no solution to the people of Africa, and no
satisfaction to the people of the G8 nations. On behalf of both those
groups, we will hold the Government and their G8 counterparts to account.
Africa is
the world's biggest continent. It consists of 51 countries with hugely
diverse cultures and histories, where more than 1,000 languages are
spoken. As the Secretary of State has just said, we should be wary of
excessive generalisation when talking about Africa, but the countries of
sub-Saharan Africa are, broadly speaking, united in poverty, which is
acute, prolonged and worsening. Africa is the only continent in the world
to have grown poorer in the last generation. People around the world,
particularly in India and China, are creating wealth and gradually
escaping from poverty. Africa's share of world trade, however, has halved.
Poverty is increasing and, as my hon. Friend the Member for Buckingham has
said, life expectancy is falling.
Today,
like yesterday and tomorrow, 8,000 people in Africa will die from
HIV/AIDS, 7,000 people will die of hunger, and 6,000 will die from
water-borne diseases—90 per cent. of malaria cases are in sub-Saharan
Africa. At least 25 million people are HIV-positive, and 12 million
children have lost one or both of their parents to AIDS—12 million is more
than the number of children in Britain. A total of 100 million children
are missing out on school. Their school fees—I learned in Uganda that they
are often less than £5 a term—are too expensive for their parents to meet.
Denied an education, they are condemned at birth to a life of failure,
their intellectual growth stunted just as the growth of their nation is
stunted by poverty, and their talent is wasted forever.
Africa's
children are like our children—they laugh the same, play the same, and
suffer the same. In South Africa, people spend more on burying their dead
than they do on food and clothing for their families. In the global
village, we cannot ignore such suffering. In the face of that situation,
it is truly appropriate that the question that will dominate the G8
meeting next week is what politicians in rich countries should do to
reduce poverty and promote development in poor countries. For the millions
of AIDS orphans and for all those children not in school there is no more
important question. There are, however, no easy answers. Africa needs much
more than good intentions. It needs co-ordinated, focused and effective
assistance from the developed world and good policy from its national
governments—a partnership, as the Secretary of State said.
I
deliberately stress the need for good policy from African Governments. Bad
Governments pursuing bad policies are the major reason why Africa is
poorer today than it was 50 years ago. If the G8 countries are serious
about helping Africa, they must face that unpleasant fact, and use their
diplomatic and financial influence to create incentives for African
governments to govern well. They must be unflinching in their condemnation
of those Governments who perpetuate poverty and wage war on their own
people. The title of our debate is "Helping Africa to fight poverty", and
ultimately it is the responsibility of African governments and the African
people to fight poverty.
Our
actions should be enabling. They may help to create the necessary
conditions for progress in Africa, but they are not sufficient in
themselves. Kofi Annan, the UN Secretary-General has said that
"the
struggle for development has to be carried on mainly in developing
countries and by their people."
We must
not use bad governance as an excuse to turn our back on those 12 million
AIDS orphans. There is much that the G8 leaders can, and must, do to
assist those African governments who are genuinely committed to helping
their people escape poverty.
First, we
want to see a big increase in the quality and volume of aid. I welcome the
consensus in British politics on the UN's 0.7 per cent target. As well as
increasing the amount of aid that we deliver, we must secure international
agreement to achieve a dramatic improvement in the quality of aid. We
should be candid about the record of aid in the past. Some aid has been
spectacularly successful. It supported the eradication of smallpox, for
example, saving millions of children from a painful death. In Kampala 10
days ago I saw how British aid is helping to support 140,000 families
affected by HIV/AIDS. I met people who are alive today because of British
generosity. I visited the Kitovu hospital run by the CAFOD-sponsored
Medical Missionaries of Mercy. Everyone in that hospital was working
together to save lives with limited resources. I pay tribute to the work
of those amazing people at that hospital and to all those who volunteer.
They show us what can be achieved.
I want all our aid to be that effective, yet much aid in the past has been
wasted, ending up in Swiss bank accounts or the pockets of arms dealers.
Too often, aid has been characterised as a transfer of money from poor
people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries. No part of the
planet has received more aid and done less with it than Africa. We will
secure public support for increased aid only if we take decisive action to
prevent that from happening again. The public are sceptical. A poll for
The Daily Telegraph has shown that 83 per cent. of people are not
confident that money given by the west would be spent wisely. It also
shows that 79 per cent. of voters believe that corruption and incompetence
are to blame for Africa's problems.
After the
summer, when the G8 conference is packed away, our electorates, the people
of the developed world, will look to their leaders to ensure that the vast
amount of money raised is spent properly. We must outline clearly how the
money is to be spent, and we must put in place clear, transparent
structures to account for the money. The G8 leaders must be able to
monitor precisely where our money goes. I hope the Secretary of State will
look carefully at structural ways of ensuring greater transparency and
accountability in the way aid moneys are spent. Our taxpayers will demand
nothing less.
Our aid
should help to support efforts to develop the institutional and legal
preconditions for growth and sustainable poverty reduction. It should be
used to reward and encourage countries which establish a framework of
transparent institutions, which respect the rule of law and human and
property rights, and which promote free trade between individuals and
between nations. Where we work with Governments, we must expect them to be
fully and openly accountable for the funds that they receive. There should
be no more second chances for tyrants and no more benefit of the doubt for
corrupt dictators.
In badly
governed countries, we should distribute aid through the small platoons of
motivated, dedicated NGOs which are already doing such good work in the
developing world. Such money should be disbursed through the Department
for International Development, which is focused on output, rather than
through the inefficient European Union.
We face
huge challenges and we have only limited resources, so it is vital that we
spend our aid where it will do the most good. That means supporting
specific, effective, accountable investments in vaccine research and the
provision of basis health and education services. We should draw up a
priority list and stick to it. The Copenhagen consensus priorities of
tackling HIV/AIDS, malnutrition and malaria are a good place to start.
We need
to conduct a rigorous investigation into the merits of direct budget
support, as opposed to project aid. Clearly, both approaches have their
advantages and disadvantages, but the British people will rightly be
sceptical about giving their hard-earned money to Governments who are not
fully accountable and transparent.
Mr.
Drew:
Will the
hon. Gentleman include TB in his list? TB, unfortunately, is the great
killer in Africa that is often overlooked. Together with my hon. Friend
the Member for Linlithgow and East Falkirk (Michael Connarty), I had a
meeting last week with Dr. Felix Salaniponi, who is the director of the
national TB control programme in Malawi. He made it clear to us that TB
can be eradicated but it must not be left out of the equation with malaria
and HIV/AIDS. Does the hon. Gentleman agree?
Mr.
Mitchell:
The hon.
Gentleman makes a good point. TB is of course coterminous with AIDS, and
he makes his own point correctly.
The
Department for International Development has earmarked £45 million for
direct budget support to Malawi in the period 2003–06, despite the fact
that the Department acknowledges that the country has
"weak
economic and financial management".
Can the
Secretary of State assure us that the money will be well spent? In Uganda,
50 per cent. of the budget comes from aid. What impact does that have on
the behaviour of the Ugandan Government? Does it undermine their
accountability to the Ugandan people?
I turn to
the proposed international finance facility. That is a very clever way of
front-end loading aid funding, but many questions remain unanswered. How
exactly will the extra money be spent? How will we avoid the risk of a
dramatic reduction in aid levels after 2015? What guarantees can be given
that our aid will indeed be more effective if spent sooner rather than
later? If the limiting factor is absorptive capacity on the ground, there
is a real risk that aid could be subject to significantly diminishing
marginal returns.
The
international finance facility for immunisation is a very good idea
indeed. Vaccinating children against disease is surely one of the most
effective ways to spend our money. Children's lives can be saved for just
a few pennies. In the 20th century we eradicated smallpox from the planet
and we made great progress on polio. In the 21st century why can we not
eradicate malaria from the planet, or even HIV/AIDS? In the face of
diseases that cause such suffering, we cannot set our sights too high. One
of the major priorities for the extra resources released at the G8 should
be preventive health care and the provision of safe drinking water and
adequate sanitation. We must ensure that all the money raised by the main
IFF is used as productively as that. Furthermore, the immoral and
unethical poaching of doctors and health workers from the third world to
work in our country—health workers who are desperately needed back in
their own communities—should be ended immediately.
I come
now to debt relief. The last Conservative Government led the world in
providing debt relief for poor countries. We welcome the progress that has
been made on bilateral debt relief and will urge other countries to follow
Britain's lead. We welcome the recent deal on multilateral debt. Well
managed debt relief has produced many success stories. Mozambique's debt
relief has enabled its Government to immunise 500,000 children. Benin
eliminated school fees in rural areas, allowing thousands of children to
attend classes for the first time. That is what debt relief can and must
achieve, but we need to ensure that all the money freed up in this way is
spent on fighting disease and educating children. We must put in place
robust measures to ensure that the money released by debt cancellation is
used to fight poverty. We must match generosity with practicality, acting
to ensure that the money released by debt relief is put to good use.
The most
effective way of helping African countries to develop is to free up
markets for their trade. Although trade policy is a matter to be decided
formally at the EU and the World Trade Organisation, it is right that
trade measures to help the developing world are very much on the political
agenda at the G8. I reiterate our position. Protection for developed
countries at the expense of the developing world is both immoral and
hypocritical. It must come to an end. For every pound that rich countries
give to poor countries in aid, those countries lose £2 through our
protectionist trade barriers. Over the past four years, £20 billion has
been spent by the EU on agricultural export subsidies to Africa. That is a
waste of European taxpayers' money and a direct cause of African
impoverishment.
I am
horrified by the French attitude to the reform of the CAP.
Mr.
Laurence Robertson:
My hon.
Friend will be aware that 20 years ago, when Live Aid started, half the
entire EU budget was spent on storing and disposing of surpluses, at a
time when people in the world were starving. Is it not a tragedy that 20
years on, we do not seem to have moved very far?
Mr.
Mitchell:
My hon.
Friend lays before the House a most important point.
The
common agricultural policy hurts British taxpayers and consumers and is
detrimental to the interests of poor countries. It encourages
overproduction, distorts prices, imposes high tariffs on imports and
subsidises exports. The Government must not let French intransigence
prevent them from pushing for reforms of the CAP which will benefit the
poor. We will press the EU to reduce agricultural tariffs and to end
export subsidies. My right hon. Friend the Member for West Dorset (Mr.
Letwin) is saying a number of interesting things today about the reform of
the CAP. I hope the Government will want to take up his sensible agenda.
The
dumping of state-subsidised produce on poorer countries is an abuse of the
market. America should be taken to task for its outrageous cotton
subsidies, which impoverish the people of Africa. What steps are the
Government taking to equip poor countries to take full advantage of the
opportunities offered by the multilateral trading system overseen by the
WTO? Does the Secretary of State agree that a lack of the necessary
expertise all too often prevents poor countries from taking full advantage
of the system? What further consideration has he given to our proposal to
create an advocacy fund to help poor countries fight their corner in
international negotiations and to ensure that they are not outgunned in
trade disputes? He will want to consider the important points made by my
right hon. Friend the Leader of the Opposition at yesterday's Prime
Minister's questions.
The
experience of Africa since independence has not been one of
undifferentiated failure, and there are beacons of hope and cradles of
development from which the rest of the continent can learn. For example,
Botswana has had the fastest growth in income per person of any country in
the world during the past 35 years. It is a stable, well governed country
and a multi-party democracy, and the benefits of its considerable diamond
wealth have been spread fairly widely. According to Transparency
International, Botswana is the least corrupt country in Africa, and its
Government have taken a firm stand against corruption. When I visited
Botswana last year, I was impressed by the anti-corruption posters on
every street corner. Of course, the problem for Botswana is that all this
is threatened by an HIV-prevalence rate of 30 per cent.
Let us be
honest—the people of Africa have suffered from some of the worst
Governments in the world. It is polite to refer to that point as "the
governance issue", but the euphemism betrays those Africans who encounter
police as a uniformed protection racket, customs officers not as people
who protect their children from drugs but as extortionists who have bought
their posts and need to make them pay, or judges not as neutral
administrators of justice but as servants of the rich and powerful. To
people from Darfur whose villages have been razed or to Zimbabweans whose
homes have been burned, the word "governance" is a shameful, almost
wilful, dodging of the issue, and the G8 leaders should act on that matter
next week.
This
Government have not always lived up to their rhetoric about crimes against
humanity in Africa. As President Mugabe's repression gets worse, they
still do nothing—meanwhile, China supplies him with arms. In the debate
following the statement on the Commission for Africa, the Secretary of
State said that he felt the people of Africa would hold their leaders to
account through the democratic process. I hope that he will at least
concede that things are not going entirely as he had hoped. African
Governments have remained resolutely silent over the policies of state
terrorism exercised by President Mugabe in Zimbabwe, except, of course,
for President Mkapa of Tanzania, who is a member of the Commission for
Africa and who earlier this year in a BBC interview praised his "brother"
for his brave anti-colonial stance.
Kate
Hoey (Vauxhall) (Lab):
The hon. Gentleman has mentioned good governance in Africa and Zimbabwe.
This morning, I visited some of the Zimbabwean hunger strikers in
Harmsworth. What message does it send to the world about what this country
thinks about Zimbabwe that we are prepared to allow 90 people to remain on
hunger strike because we will not stop sending back people to that brutal
dictator?
Mr.
Mitchell:
The hon.
Lady is right, and I have made the point that more action should be taken.
I am not
talking about white farmers, although their treatment has been appalling
and unjust. I am talking about the estimated 250,000 black Zimbabwean
citizens who have been brutally ejected from their homes, which have been
destroyed, and left without shelter or sustenance because they were
suspected of voting for the opposition in the last election. I am talking
about the many millions more who are starving and dying in the country at
large for belonging to the wrong tribe, for having the wrong political
allegiance, or simply because they are the random victims of policies that
have reduced a once-thriving country to penury. We were told that public
criticism of Mugabe's regime by donor Governments would be
counterproductive and that we should allow Mugabe's peers and neighbours
to use quiet diplomacy and economic leverage to ameliorate his policies.
From here, that quiet diplomacy looks far more like spineless consensual
silence.
As for
Ethiopia, which is run by another of the Prime Minister's friends, Meles
Zenawi, the African Union, explaining its silence about the recent murder
of more than 20 opposition supporters on the streets of Addis Ababa, said
that it had more important issues to deal with.
Neither
protestors, nor politicians, nor rock stars will be able single-handedly
to make poverty history, which is a task that can be accomplished only by
the efforts of African countries themselves. People, not Governments,
create wealth, but there is much that our Government can do to make that
task easier: we can champion and reward good government; we can give more
aid and make sure that it is spent well; and we can allow people in poor
countries to trade with people in rich countries without hindrance.
However, the ultimate success or failure of the British presidency of the
G8 will be judged not by inputs—the headline figures on aid or debt—but by
outcomes. How many children will it save from an early death and how many
poor countries will it enable to become more wealthy? We have a duty, both
to people in developing countries and to the hard-working British
taxpayer, to see that the money released for development in 2005 is well
spent.
Good
intentions and generous spending alone achieve nothing. If we are to make
poverty history, we must match compassion with realism and generosity with
practicality. Although we should recognise the crucial role of aid in
reducing immediate human suffering, we should also remember that the only
sure road out of poverty is wealth, spurred on by property rights and
freedom under the rule of law. Reforming immoral, hypocritical and
pernicious trade barriers and subsidies would do more to help sub-Saharan
Africa than anything else.
We fully
support the Prime Minister and the Government in their determination to
act this year, but we will monitor them closely and hold them accountable
for the hopes they have raised, both at home and in Africa. My signal to
those marching to Edinburgh—many of us will be marching with you—is that
we will not allow your expectations to be let down. Failure by the leaders
of the G8 to seize this moment of opportunity would be a betrayal of their
own citizens as much as of the poor, the sick and the destitute in Africa.
The Government must not squander the emotional capital that they have
earned, which is why we will support them in the noble aims and
aspirations that they will champion at Gleneagles next week. I hope that
they will draw strength from our determination and support and from the
faith of those across the world who will be watching.
Mr. Deputy Speaker (Sir
Michael Lord):
Order. Before I call the next speaker, I remind hon. Members that the
10-minute limit on speeches by Back Benchers applies from now on.
Mr.
Tom Clarke (Coatbridge, Chryston and Bellshill) (Lab):
In opening the debate, my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State
welcomed the focus on these important issues—it is marvellous that people
are writing and speaking about them, and on Saturday people will be
marching about them, too.
On 7
June, I read a piece in The Guardian by Martin Kettle that made me
feel angry. Having re-read the article, which was entitled, "The naive
lead the naive in a campaign of liberal guilt", and having re-examined
Martin Kettle's conclusion that
"Gleneagles
. . . is about a generation's unfinished business",
I think
that the article probably served a useful purpose by reflecting, along
with the enthusiasm for making poverty history and for Saturday's march,
the cynicism which undoubtedly exists in some quarters and which has even
been reflected in today's short exchanges. As the hon. Member for Sutton
Coldfield (Mr. Mitchell) has said, Africa has received more aid than any
other continent, but has also repaid more debt and more debt interest than
any other continent, and it has to deal with countries that pursue
grotesque trade policies that clearly make impositions on the poorest
people in Africa. We must address those matters in the modern world.
So what
do we seek to do? We want to take on board what Make Poverty History is
about and to address the issues of conflict. We are all deeply worried
about Darfur, and we want to strengthen the international community and
the United Nations in their response to that terrible and ongoing crisis.
In our aid policies, we want to ensure that we deal with child care
issues. In Africa, one woman in 14 is likely to die in childbirth as
against one woman in 1,400 in Europe; that cannot be right. We want to
address health care problems and people's need for food and medication. We
want to tackle genuine development and to challenge the terrible scourge
of HIV/AIDS, especially where we know that we have the opportunities to do
it.
There is
cynicism, and we might as well acknowledge that. It is perfectly fair to
criticise what is going on in Zimbabwe, which is abominable, but it has to
be set in the context of the problems of the whole of Africa. Some 12
million people live in Zimbabwe—1.6 per cent. of a total population of 817
million. The policies being pursued there are deplorable, but Zimbabwe is
not Africa and Africa is not Zimbabwe. Transparency, on the part of donor
nations and recipient nations, is absolutely essential. It is essential
too in terms of partnership, because without that partnership we cannot
achieve the millennium goals and objectives that most Members wish to
achieve.
I am glad
that my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State gave a lead yesterday and
today when he mentioned Kenya. He said that school fees had been abolished
and that 1 million more children are at school, which is splendid, but he
did not do it in a starry-eyed way. He pointed out that 40 million
children in Africa are not where they should be—at their desks in the
classroom. That, too, remains a challenge.
My hon.
Friend the Member for South Down (Mr. McGrady) spoke about Ethiopia. He
mentioned some people in his constituency who went there to help to build
a little school, but had not been there for long when they realised that
it could not be done. They found children starving and dying and children
who were blind, and saw that food and medication were not getting there.
They went back to Ireland to review their priorities and to address the
problems that they had encountered.
It is not
unreasonable to respond to the demands for transparency that have again
been made in this debate—indeed, I support them. It is not unreasonable to
say that there should be accountability in relation to the extraction of
the huge mineral resources in Angola, the Democratic Republic of the Congo
and elsewhere. The companies that exploit those resources should be open
and democratic, and the Governments who obtain them should be open not
only with their own people but with public opinion in this country. I
welcome the fact that our Government are taking that issue seriously.
I want to
turn briefly, if I may, to the Bill that I hope to introduce for its
Second Reading on 20 January; obviously I cannot refer to it in detail
today.
John
Bercow (Buckingham) (Con):
Go on.
Mr.
Clarke:
That is
despite the temptation of the hon. Member for Buckingham (John Bercow).
I believe
that the Bill is highly relevant to this debate. If we achieve, as the
International Development Committee is urging upon the Government,
something like the Swedish model, then we will indeed be making progress.
Under the Bill, not only would we expect and demand in this Parliament a
report on how Governments achieve the target of 0.7 per cent. of gross
national income—some do not have a particularly good record on that—but
would look for the kind of transparency that Members on both sides of the
House have demanded today, as well as a compact with recipient countries.
We cannot instruct them about how they spend their money in absolute
detail, but it is fair that we as a Parliament and the British people know
how it is being spent.
We are
right to aim for poverty reduction and to see as a huge priority the
upholding of human rights and obligations, as well as strong financial
management and action on the compelling issue of corruption. Today, we
look forward to the events of the weekend. We also look forward to some
other important gatherings—the G8 itself, the World Trade Organisation
meeting in Hong Kong, and the millennium summit in New York later this
year. They will not solve all the problems in themselves, but they are
extremely important in making a practical contribution towards challenging
the poverty and deprivation and the lack of opportunity and aspirations
that we see in the continent of Africa.
In that
spirit, I welcome the debate, the Government's policies, and the support
that public opinion is giving to the continent of Africa because people
recognise that it is a continent seeking to make progress in a world that
is experiencing great disenchantment.
Andrew
George (St. Ives) (LD):
It is a pleasure to follow the right hon. Member for Coatbridge, Chryston
and Bellshill (Mr. Clarke), and I entirely endorse his comments.
Although
the 10-minute restriction on Back-Bench speeches does not apply to me, I
will apply it to myself, for two reasons. First, I may not be able to
remain in the Chamber until the end of the debate. I have explained why
that is to the Secretary of State, to you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, and to the
Conservatives, so I will not bore the House with it.
Secondly,
I have never been to Africa myself. People might say that I am therefore
not worthy to contribute to the debate, but I hope that they do not. One
does not need to travel to a place in order to be able to express concern
or to engage in a debate about it. A maxim that often trips off the tongue
is that travel broadens the mind. Its most ardent advocates perhaps say it
to salve their consciences about using disproportionate amounts of
non-renewable resources as they travel the globe. Some people who travel
all over the place come back with the same teeny-weeny little mind that
they went off with in the first place. I do not argue that travel does not
broaden the mind, but I would say that if one starts with a broad mind,
there is a great deal to gain from travelling. I hope that I can prove
that, as I will be putting the matter right with regard to Africa in the
very near future.
As we
could have anticipated, so far the debate has been consensual. I could
sign my name to the speech by the Secretary of State and to most of the
speech by the hon. Member for Sutton Coldfield (Mr. Mitchell), who speaks
for the Conservatives. I hope that they might be able to do the same to
mine when I shortly reach the end of it; we shall see.
I
congratulate the Government on their leadership through the Commission for
Africa. They are raising expectations with regard to the G8 summit.
Politically, that is a dangerous thing for any politician to do. They have
done it, however, in a responsible way. The Chancellor's lead on debt
relief is also welcome. We can therefore take pride, across parties, in
the Government taking a lead in the world on those issues. Challenges
still exist, however, which we want to probe and encourage the Government
to address.
The hon.
Member for Stroud (Mr. Drew), who takes a strong interest in such matters,
mentioned the national TB control programme in Malawi, and I have also met
Professor Salaniponi. The Department for International Development is
providing welcome assistance and aid to that programme, supplementing the
salaries of medical workers in Malawi, to ensure that they are not
poached—at least we hope that they will not leave the country to work
elsewhere, as they are essential to the success of that programme. The
funding comes to an end, however, at the end of this calendar year. I
know, however, that one of the challenges that the Department must face is
the exit strategy.
David
T.C. Davies (Monmouth) (Con):
Will the hon. Gentleman join me in acknowledging the enormous damage done
to countries such as Malawi when large numbers of nurses leave? I believe
that more are now working in Britain than in Malawi, and we must be
careful to ensure that the third-world countries from which we recruit can
afford to lose those people. There are many nurses from the Philippines in
my constituency, for example, but that is not a problem because that
country has a surplus of nurses. We should not recruit nurses or teachers
from South Africa, however, when that shortage causes huge problems for
the countries concerned.
Andrew
George:
I endorse
the hon. Gentleman's sentiments. The Minister will no doubt address such
issues, and the question of what the Government are doing, in his
response. Certainly, supplementing the salaries of medical workers in
Malawi makes a contribution, and we need to do a great deal more.
Sophisticated activity might be needed to enable such workers to remain in
their home country, whether they be teachers, medical workers or others.
The
timing of this debate is related to the G8 summit in Gleneagles next week
and the Live 8 marches and concerts at the weekend. I will also be in
Edinburgh this weekend, and look forward to meeting the Secretary of
State, the hon. Member for Sutton Coldfield and other parliamentarians to
ensure that the messages get across. When one of the primary issues of the
G8 summit is the eradication of poverty, however, I am concerned that that
debate is among the eight richest countries in the world. In effect, the
poorest countries can wait to hear what benefits come from the top table
after the event. When countries that are not present are being discussed,
the same principle should apply that applies to the disability
community—one should never discuss others without them being present. The
G8 should also have what I have described as the P8—the poorest
eight—present so that they can look them in the eye, negotiate with them
and understand exactly the consequences of their decisions.
In one of
the most impassioned contributions to the debate, the Secretary of State
described those in the wealthy west as having a moral duty. He described
his recent experience of visiting Sudan. I hope—I know that the hon.
Member for Buckingham (John Bercow), who has also spoken passionately on
this issue, agrees—that the Government and the G8 will consider ways of
building the capacity of the African Union and the United Nations as a
means of recognising that conflict resolution might mean international
intervention, from which we have held back too often in the past.
I asked
the Secretary of State earlier about his response to the International
Monetary Fund reports and the premise that aid results in economic growth.
I have never believed or argued that aid programmes are necessarily
intended to result in economic growth, and I was encouraged by his
response that aid is about saving people's lives. We hope that trade and
other mechanisms result more directly in the capacity for economic growth.
As
further background, the Secretary of State mentioned, as reported on the
front page of The
Times,
President's Bush's announcement that he intends to increase the US
contribution to aid to Africa in three programme areas, on the condition
that African Governments put their house in order. Of course we talk about
governance, but it is wrong for us in the west to hector African
Governments as we often end up doing. I hope that President Bush will put
his house in order with regard to his trade rules.
Mr.
Jim Cunningham (Coventry, South) (Lab):
I have listened with great interest to the hon. Gentleman, but how does he
think that we can get good government in Africa? I have not heard him
explain that.
Andrew
George:
That is a
big question to answer within the time restriction that I have given
myself. Perhaps I will be allowed injury time.
Mr.
Andrew Mitchell:
I strongly
disagree with the hon. Gentleman's contention that we should not hector
the Governments of Africa. Where we think that they are letting down the
people whom they are there to govern and lead, we should express ourselves
in the strongest possible way, which I tried to do in relation to the
Government of Zimbabwe.
Andrew
George:
Perhaps I
did not express myself clearly enough. Of course we should express
ourselves clearly when we disagree, but my point is that President Bush
should also recognise that he should put his house in order with regard to
trade rules. The US is dumping cotton on poor countries, which is having a
detrimental impact and undermining the intention to improve poverty
eradication in those countries.
Pete
Wishart:
Does the
hon. Gentleman agree that there is a real distinction between good
governance and corruption? Western Governments are imposing their
political will on developing African nations, particularly on issues such
as liberalisation of markets and insisting on privatisations.
Andrew
George:
I understand
that the hon. Gentleman intends to catch your eye, Mr. Deputy Speaker, and
he will have an opportunity to expand on those points.
The
message that I hope that we can send to those at the Live 8 concerts and
protests this weekend is that it is not an opportunity for momentary
compassion for the poorest in Africa, but that it can be sustained. I hope
that the Government will also be encouraging and look for opportunities in
which that compassion and concern, expressed by millions of people in this
country, can be expressed in practical application. One of the first
things that can be done by those who are joining hands around Edinburgh or
attending the Hyde park concert is to ask, the next time that they go to
their large local grocery store, whether it can provide reassurance that
their purchases will not damage the ethical standards for which they have
just been campaigning, and will not harm the poorest people in African
countries whom they have just attended a concert to support.
Mr.
Charles Walker (Broxbourne) (Con):
Will the hon. Gentleman educate the House as to who would actually answer
that question if it were asked in my local Tesco or Sainsbury's?
Andrew George:
There are campaigning non-governmental organisations engaged in a dialogue
with the larger supermarkets, and they are raising questions about ethical
standards. We want to encourage supermarkets. We are talking about
transparency in government, but we should also have transparency in the
commercial sector in this country, so that we understand more about the
source of our bananas, coffee and other products, so that what we buy does
not undermine the benefits of the work being undertaken to eradicate
poverty in less developed countries. I hope that the Government will use
their good offices to ensure that greater transparency can be facilitated.
Mark
Durkan (Foyle) (SDLP):
I thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, for giving me the opportunity to address
the House for the first time, in this important debate. I thank not just
the Government for this timely debate, but the Secretary of State, not
just for his contribution to the debate but for the immense efforts and
determined initiative that the Government have shown on this issue—not
just in the run-up to the G8 and the creation of the Commission for
Africa, but dating right back to the creation of the Department for
International Development and the policy reloading that that brought.
I stand
here proud to uphold the values of the Social Democratic and Labour
party—a party of consistency and persistence, as we have stood for
non-violence, democracy and partnership as a better way to a better
Ireland; and a party that is solidly social democratic, unashamedly Irish
nationalist, but determinedly internationalist.
Of course
I am conscious that I am more than an SDLP MP. I stand here democratically
honoured to represent the interests of all the people of Foyle—whether
they voted for me or for other parties' candidates, and whether they share
my political beliefs or hold other views, different from mine but no less
legitimate for that.
I also
know my duty not just to speak up for my party or stand up for my
constituents, but also to look out for the needs and rights of other
citizens of this world. So it is in this debate on addressing poverty in
Africa that I make my maiden speech. This carries some continuity from my
predecessor, John Hume, whose last Prime Minister's question, earlier this
year, was on this very same crucial issue.
The
shadow Secretary of State mentioned that we are 20 years on from Live
Aid—and 20 years ago this month, along with John Hume, I went on to a boat
in the port of Derry, in my constituency, and met six stowaways from
Ethiopia—refugees. Within days, the Home Office gave three of them refugee
status and three exceptional leave to remain. Twenty years on, as we go
towards Live8 and we face new African issues, we have to ask what
prospects those people would face if they arrived now—just as the hon.
Member for Vauxhall (Kate Hoey) raised questions about what we are doing
with refugees from Zimbabwe now.
This
debate will be full of echoes of the challenging things that Bono, among
others, has said to us all about Africa. I agree with them all, just as I
applauded Bono for hailing John Hume as a hero, and Seamus Mallon as a
giant of Irish politics. There might be spin games in Northern Ireland
about who won the war and speculation about who will win the peace, but
there can be no doubt about who won the argument. With John the architect
and Seamus the engineer, the SDLP provided the blueprint and the construct
of the Good Friday agreement.
The key
precepts of that agreement were first spelled out in a 1972 SDLP paper,
"Towards a New Ireland", which was in two parts, one offering the
political argument and the other an institutional model. It will surprise
no one in the House to hear that John Hume was the primary author of the
rationale, but it may surprise Members to hear that a major contributor to
the model outline was Kadar Asmal—then a law lecturer in Dublin and head
of the Irish anti-apartheid movement. Since then, of course, he has been
Minister for Water, and more recently Minister for Education, in a
democratic South Africa.
In
getting his ideals to prevail, John Hume led our community from grievance
to governance. In a different context, with hugely different challenges,
the African National Congress led their people from grievance to
governance. In the debate on Make Poverty History, some people raise
questions of governance almost as a dismissive counterpoint to the demand
for debt relief, proper aid and fair trade. But there can be no
sustainable solution to the governance questions in Africa without radical
and durable resolution of Africa's grievances. Wrong as they have been, it
is not the bad behaviour or poor performance of some African regimes that
created the inequities and iniquities of the world economic order that
handicap that continent.
In no way
can the challenges facing Northern Ireland be equated with the mass
suffering that afflicts so much of Africa. My own constituency of Foyle
suffered death and destruction in the Troubles, and has endured structural
neglect and under-investment for decades. It shows up in the league tables
as having the highest unemployment, the worst rates of long-term
unemployment and high rates of economic inactivity, and many of its wards
are among those with the highest concentrations of multiple deprivation,
including child poverty and fuel poverty. I will be returning to those and
related issues in future debates, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
But there
is another league table that Derry consistently tops—that for popular
giving to support development aid and combat poverty in Africa and other
developing countries. I believe that that stems from a spirit not just of
charity but of solidarity. Derry is more forward-looking and
outward-looking than many people know, as is evidenced in the great work
of so many schools, Churches and other groups in the Make Poverty History
campaign and for other causes.
Derry
should not just be defined by the sort of stark indicators that I
mentioned earlier, without also being described by its tradition of
self-help, its pathfinding partnerships, its cultural offering, its
working aspiration to be a "city of learning", and the enterprise shown
even against difficult odds. So I know too that although all Africans want
us to focus properly on the ills of poverty, disease, hunger, child
mortality and lack of education and health services, they also want us to
recognise their good endeavours, their initiative, their cultural
vibrancy, their talents and their ambitions. They want us to recognise
their efforts to grow out of poverty, to invest properly, to foster
enterprise and deliver community-based development, to combat disease, to
provide safe water, to keep children alive to school age and then to
guarantee them a school.
It is
when we see both what Africans are offering, as well as what Africans are
suffering that we get a fuller sense of the compound injustice of their
position. We cannot see corruption in African Governments and be blind to
the corruption of an international economic order that locks people in
poverty and stunts democracy, while mouthing "private enterprise" and
"good governance" as a modern version of "Let them eat cake". We cannot
preach property rights while we deny production rights.
The Make
Poverty History campaign has three demands—debt relief, more and better
aid, and trade justice. Debt relief is not just about writing off African
mistakes. It is about righting a world wrong. Debt relief means allowing
Africa to focus more of its own spending on its own potential, its own
needs, rather than on liabilities that it should not owe anyone. It will
release important margins of African countries' gross national product for
investment in vital services such as health and education. It should mean
that the benefits of economic growth allow more Africans to make a living,
rather than allowing banks and institutions to make a killing.
I welcome
the debt relief package for the poorest countries, brokered by the
Chancellor with his G8 colleagues. Its value should not be underestimated,
nor should it be overestimated. We need to recognise that many poor
peoples in regions of hardship will not benefit directly. We also need to
realise that funding debt relief from aid budgets can be seen as robbing
Peter to pay Peter. More remains to be done. I believe that the Chancellor
and the Secretary of State for International Development will try to get
more and better, through, for instance, sponsorship of the international
finance facility.
The
second demand is for aid levels to rise to 0.7 per cent. of GNP. That
target was set and promised as long ago as 1970, and has been set again
many times by many countries. We now have the solemn commitments of the
millennium development goals, which are not just about overall aid levels
but about very specific outcomes in education, health, housing, safe water
and so forth.
Judged on
our record, our promises mean little or nothing. We are hardly in a
position to preach to Africa about performance and delivery standards from
Government. New promises on aid are overdue, but still under-reliable.
Such commitments should be absolute and should do exactly what it says on
the tin, with no more evasions consisting of micro-statistical comparisons
with what others are not doing, or attempts to include popular donations
to aid agencies. That applies not just to the G8 but to all countries, not
least EU countries and particularly—for me—Ireland. I entirely back the
case for targeting and tracking increased aid, but that proper priority
should not be an excuse for our lack of urgency and diligence in living up
to earlier promises.
The third
plank is trade justice: allowing people a fair price for what they
produce, allowing African countries to add value to what they produce, and
allowing them to grow their way out of poverty. It must involve ending the
travesty of their having to scale the high dam gates of protection tariffs
around us when they struggle to avoid drowning as we flood their markets
by dump-pouring goods below world prices.
While
there are some critics of the case for debt relief and aid, none of us
parliamentarians are being actively lobbied against them. That will not be
the case when it comes to some of the issues in the world trade round
building up to December. Interests in or near our constituencies will
bring us legitimate concerns, as businesses or unions. Organised interests
will lobby us on the implications and complications of trade round
choices. In that confusion and concern, and after the hype of Gleneagles,
we must not be tempted to fall for the Meatloaf standard that "two out of
three ain't bad".
We must not decide that trade justice can wait while we let better aid and
debt relief work. Africa needs justice now—not two thirds of justice, but
all of it.
Mr.
Andrew Mackay (Bracknell) (Con):
It is a huge privilege to follow the hon. Member for Foyle (Mark Durkan).
Nearly everyone in the House was delighted when he won a very difficult
election in his constituency last month. He is a courageous politician who
has had a distinguished career in Northern Ireland, most recently in the
Executive and the Assembly. It was typical of him that his speech was not
just about the Province, but was an international speech in a significant
international debate. He also used the opportunity to point out, rightly,
that the city he represents and loves, Derry, is a big city with a big
heart, which looks outwards as he did. I hope that he will ably represent
his constituency for many years to come.
This has
been a significant debate in another respect. In my experience, there have
not been many occasions on which we have heard two such fine speeches from
the Front Benches. The Secretary of State is respected in all parts of the
House for his huge enthusiasm but also for his hardnosed realism, matched
with a rare eloquence. We have high hopes that he will continue his good
work throughout this Parliament. I hope that the Prime Minister, or his
successor, will not be so unwise as to move him in a reshuffle, because we
need him in his Department for the entire Parliament.
I am
delighted that my hon. and very good Friend the Member for Sutton
Coldfield (Mr. Mitchell) is the shadow Secretary of State. He has the
eloquence but also the financial expertise to make a large contribution. I
think that the two of them will work very closely together.
There are
plenty of opportunities in the House for us to have rigorous debates, to
play the party-political game, to score points and also, perhaps, to
thoroughly enjoy ourselves. Increasingly, however, I have noticed that
that is a thing of the past in the context of international development,
and the speeches we have heard so far have illustrated that very well.
Having
said all that, I hope that the Secretary of State will forgive me if I
draw attention to areas of concern as well as areas of consensus, as he
rightly said that he wanted to listen carefully to the whole debate.
It is
taken as read, as hon. Member for Foyle rightly pointed out a few moments
ago, that there are many aspects to this debate. It is essential that more
funds be made available for Africa—that is agreed—but it is also essential
that that money be well spent. The hon. Gentleman was also correct when he
said there is no point in trying to create an enterprise culture if the
first bricks are not in place. The first bricks have to be education and
health, but they also have to include good governance. There also has to
be a level playing field.
I have
criticised before our American allies and our European partners, who are
the two principal culprits. My hon. Friend the Member for Sutton Coldfield
rightly criticised the common agricultural policy, which we have to work
to change. It is not just overburdening our contribution to the EU and its
budget, which is bad enough; what it is really doing is ruining farmers
across the third world, but particularly in Africa. We have to put great
pressure on President Bush and on Congress every time that we meet
American politicians. We have to point out the harm that their food
subsidies are doing to Africa. This American Administration rightly see
the problems in Africa. They are being financially very generous, but most
of that will be largely wasted if they do not reform their own subsidies.
Most of
all, we have to continue to fight against corruption, bad government and
abuse of human rights in Africa. The right hon. Member for Coatbridge,
Chryston and Bellshill (Mr. Clarke), who is a considerable expert in this
field, chided us by saying that Zimbabwe is not Africa. To that degree he
is right, and the Secretary of State pointed out the many success stories,
but the Secretary of State also rightly pointed out the failures. I hope
that the right hon. Member for Coatbridge, Chryston and Bellshill will
bear with me if I spend most of the remaining few minutes of my speech
talking about Zimbabwe, not least because his Government and the Leader of
the House have not behaved well in failing to get a Minister to make a
statement at the Dispatch Box on Zimbabwe, particularly bearing in mind
the outrageous acts of the Mugabe regime, which has demolished so many
houses for political purposes and abused human rights. I have no facility
to express my concerns other than that which attaches to this debate.
Although
the Secretary of State was right to say that wherever possible, our aid
should go direct to Governments in Africa—democratically elected, one
hopes—who can then choose how best to spend that money, that clearly
cannot be so in Zimbabwe. He and I had an exchange on this issue during
questions yesterday, and I hope that when the Under-Secretary winds up, he
will further confirm that where doubt exists—there is no doubt in
Zimbabwe: it is a clear-cut case—and there is fear of corruption and the
abuse of human rights, we will concentrate more on the non-governmental
organisations and less on giving money to the Government in question. Only
when we are satisfied that there is good governance and a lack of
corruption can the money go to that Government. That is very important
indeed.
It is
tragic that we have not intervened—I do not mean militarily—to put greater
pressure on Zimbabwe, and that we have allowed Mugabe to abuse his people.
We have to ask ourselves why, when action is taken against wrongdoing
regimes in the Balkans, the middle east and Afghanistan, it has not been
taken in Zimbabwe. It is so condescending to African people to say, "Oh,
it's different. We don't want to upset Africa. We have to do things
gently." Initially, I accepted that the situation should be dealt with
through the African Union, of which I am a big supporter. As the Secretary
of State pointed out earlier, the African Union has done some good,
particularly in the Sudan, the Congo and the Central African Republic. In
Zimbabwe, however, its record has been disgraceful—as has, I am afraid,
the record of President Mbeki. I am great supporter of what has happened
in South Africa: the transformation since apartheid has been quite
remarkable and the reconciliation achieved has been deeply significant.
Yet there remains a complete blind spot over Zimbabwe. When we see the
President of Tanzania positively applauding what is happening in Zimbabwe,
it sends a shiver down one's spine. My hon. Friend the Member for Sutton
Coldfield mentioned that earlier.
We have
to put greater pressure on our African friends to take action in Zimbabwe
and we need more effective sanctions. It is possible to apply more
effective and sharper sanctions and it is possible to take action against
the deeply revolting business men in this country who are helping to fund
the regime in Zimbabwe. We know who they are and we know where they live:
it is time that enforcement officers in this country, perhaps emboldened
by fresh legislation, took action against them.
I
conclude by saying that I hope that all these issues are properly taken
into account during this deeply significant week with the G8 meeting at
Gleneagles. If we just throw money at the problem and do not resolve the
other issues, the effort will largely be wasted, which would be a very
great pity indeed.
Mr.
Michael Meacher (Oldham, West and Royton) (Lab):
I welcome my right hon. Friend's opening speech, which was excellent,
spoken with passion and eloquence and, if I may say so, on the back of a
good ministerial track record. I must however add that the congratulatory,
nodding consensus across the Floor of the House on this subject is
beginning to turn my stomach. I shall want to make some critical comments,
but I believe that Gleneagles is a defining moment for this Government.
There are a few rare occasions that expose the moral tenor of our times,
and the Africa/climate change G8 may turn out, in the breadth of its
positive vision, to be one of them. Given the sheer scale of what is being
attempted and given that the British Government have been the prime
impetus and driver behind the whole project, it must be said that if this
can succeed, it will be one of the most important achievements—perhaps the
most important achievement—of the Labour Government so far.
Securing
international agreement on wiping out multilateral debt owed to the World
Bank and the International Monetary Fund for 18 of the world's poorest
countries, relieving them immediately of £22 billion of debt—a sum that
might well be increased to about £28 billion in the next 12 to 18 months
with the inclusion of a further nine very poor countries—is unquestionably
a huge achievement. The significance of the deal is that dirt-poor
countries such as Mozambique, Ethiopia, Tanzania and Zambia, which are now
obliged to spend more each year on servicing the debt by paying the
interest than on their entire health or education budgets, will now at
last have a chance to begin the fight to escape extreme poverty.
The
United Nations Development Programme report of a few weeks ago projected
that on current trends—that is, before the current deal—there would be 5
million deaths of babies and infants under five in Africa over the next
decade. That figure will now be significantly cut as a result of the
deal—though, of course, not by enough. I believe that the doubling of aid
from $50 billion to about $100 billion a year is still needed in addition.
Earlier in the debate, there was some question about the purpose of aid. I
believe that its purpose is to build roads and infrastructure, and to put
in place the health, education, training and other public services that
are necessary for decent welfare and the economic take-off that the
private sector will never provide on its own.
I know
that President Bush is saying a bit more today, but the current US offer
of $675 million is paltry compared with the extent of need. The US economy
is worth $10 trillion; the US spends $400 billion every year on defence,
but its aid budget is only 0.16 per cent. of GDP. It is the meanest of all
the rich nations, but the Bush Administration are saying in effect that,
for Africa, the US can afford an extra amount equal to only 0.08 per cent.
of its annual defence budget. The Africa Commission states in its
excellent report that that is just one ninth of the absolute minimum that
is necessary. The trouble is that the US never took much interest in
Africa—at least until the 1990s, when oil was discovered off the west
coast.
Quite
rightly, much has been made of corrupt governance in Africa, and that
dreadful problem needs to be tackled. It is used as an excuse to withhold
aid, but helpful precedents have been agreed by NEPAD and some African
Governments that would allow aid expenditure to be monitored and audited
by independent agencies. That is a step forward. Moreover, the oil and
mining industries that are notorious for bribing Government officials are
now subject to transparency guidelines. Again, though, those guidelines
must have force and they must be statutory.
The
corrupt Governments in Africa are bad, but they are not the only ones at
fault. We must not be blind to the fact that western practices are also
reprehensible in some respects. All too often, tied aid is used as a form
of subsidy for commercial exports. In addition, the US in particular often
directs aid as a means of helping military allies such as Israel, and not
as a way of relieving poverty. The ActionAid report released last month
stated that 40 per cent. of global aid goes on over-priced assistance from
international consultants. I know that my right hon. Friend the Secretary
of State has challenged that, but the figure is certainly substantial. So
when we hear members of the free-trade right scorn Africa's aid junkies,
we must ask exactly who those aid junkies are, and who profits so
handsomely from the global aid system.
Considerable advances in aid and debt relief have been made in the run-up
to the G8 meeting, but they pale into insignificance when compared with
the fundamental goal—to transform the profoundly unjust and discriminatory
international trading system that impoverished the developing countries in
the first place. We have always demanded free trade from those countries,
so that their markets could be opened up to our multinational
corporations, but we do not always reciprocate. We do not practise
unfettered free trade, as we limit access to our markets by means of
quotas, high tariffs, so-called voluntary agreements and a host of other
restrictions whenever our domestic industries come under pressure.
If we are
honest, we must admit that the west does not really believe in free trade.
What we really believe in is safeguarding our economic dominance at all
costs. Nearly all the aid, loan and debt-relief packages put together by
the World Bank and the IMF are predicated on liberalisation
conditionalities. Before they can receive aid, developing countries are
required to agree to dismantle tariff barriers, open up to foreign
investment, privatise state-owned companies, reduce public services and
hold down wages.
Now we
are at it again. Paragraph 2 of the pre-G8 Finance Ministers' statement
says that to qualify for debt relief developing countries must
"boost
private sector development"
and
eliminate
"impediments
to private investment, both domestic and foreign."
To take
just one example among many, that means that Uganda will have to sell off
its water supplies, its agricultural services and its commercial bank, all
with minimum regulation.
I do not
especially like that policy, but if it worked, a good case could be made
for it. But it does not work. According to the World Bank's figures, in
its recent report, across the 20 years from 1960 to 1980, before it and
the IMF started introducing strict conditions on countries that accepted
their loans, median annual growth in developing countries was 2.5 per
cent. a year. In the 18 years from 1980 to 1998, it was zero or 0.0 per
cent. precisely. Trade is the best route out of poverty, as we can all
agree, but not if it is fixed to keep developing countries in subjection
as mere suppliers of commodities at rock-bottom prices with severely
limited access to western markets. Yes, we should cancel the debt, but we
should cancel it unconditionally. We also conveniently forget that all
countries that have achieved economic take-off have done so behind high
protective walls, and I hope that we will consider that for Africa, too.
Mr.
Stephen O'Brien (Eddisbury) (Con):
I am grateful for the opportunity to speak in this important debate. I am
always pleased to follow the distinguished and right hon. Member for
Oldham, West and Royton (Mr. Meacher), with his long track record and
undoubted concern on these issues. While he concluded on a more consensual
note, a degree of anachronism crept into his arguments, because the whole
point of the G8 and the Government's aims is that growth is not a zero sum
game. The whole idea is that the growth of the rich countries can be
spread through trade to help the growth of the developing nations and thus
the world generally.
I start
by setting out my total agreement with the proposition that the Government
have a real opportunity at the G8 to set the agenda and the tone for the
two paramount issues of far-reaching concern—climate change and relieving
poverty in Africa. Those are the correct priorities, and they are laudable
and timely. The Government have my party's support for those overarching
themes. This is an occasion on which it is wholly appropriate—as my right
hon. Friend the Member for Bracknell (Mr. Mackay) said—to say that the
Secretary of State's speech was one of the best and most memorable that I
have heard in this House, and I am grateful to him for it. Equally, I
appreciated the response from my hon. Friend the Member for Sutton
Coldfield (Mr. Mitchell). There is a danger of the debate turning into a
paean of praise, but the whole point is that we have a shared belief in
the importance of the subject and in translating our will into effective
action. That is the challenge for all of us in this debating Chamber as we
discuss the deeply disturbing problems on the ground in Africa.
Africa is
a vast place and the topic is vast. I hope that the debate will bring out
many aspects of the topic, but each one of us has to do our best to focus
on the issues on which we can gain some purchase, instead of trying to
cover the whole canvas. My own interest is well known, not least because I
am Tanzanian born. I am chairman of the all-party group on that country,
as well as the all-party malaria group. I am also involved with the
all-party Africa group, whose chairman I see in his place, as well as
being vice-chairman of the Uganda group and the debt, aid and trade group,
which used to be the heavily indebted poor countries group and before that
the Jubilee 2000 group—changes of name that demonstrate how these issues
have developed over time.
It is
pleasing to note that Tanzania has seen a massive increase in the take-up
of primary education, from 4 million to 7 million, to which the Secretary
of State referred. Of course, as I was finding out in a conversation with
the high commissioner of Tanzania to this country just the other day, the
challenge is how to develop the secondary education system. By the time
one gets any system in place for primary education, the cohort of children
who benefit quickly become those who are challenged by the need to develop
and consolidate the advantage, all of which has been hugely strengthened
and assisted by the good will and financial aid from this country and many
others. So that is now the challenge for Tanzania, as well as reaching out
to the many rural areas where primary education has not even begun to
become a reality.
Although
such things, as the Secretary of State said, are certainly examples of aid
that works, we need to pause for a moment to wonder whether the phrase
that he might have used in his speech is that aid can and often does work,
but not always. It is important for the future that western donor
countries and their people continue to have the confidence that aid is
worth while and an essential thing for us to do. That has been touched on,
and it is part of the Secretary of State's and the Government's priority.
So when we focus on poverty, in addition to the cancellation of debt, the
big challenge now involves multilateral debt, which is subject to much
wider agreements and where a solution is more difficult to secure.
Most of
us feel that the progress made on private bank debt and bilateral debt
through the Paris Club has been very significant and very helpful.
However, we should bear in mind the words of Anthony Montague Brown—the
former private secretary to Sir Winston Churchill—who, after Sir Winston
Churchill died, went off into the City and the banks. In 1976 and 1977, he
was instrumental in extending a lot of loans to developing countries. He
said in his book that of course people never expected those loans to be
repaid. When that is analysed, it is clear that those debts have long
since been written off by those banks. The interest has long been way in
excess of what was a sensible, commercial return. Let's face it. Many of
those debts have in fact been cancelled—rightly—which shows the mental
approach at the time.
We should
not forget that there comes a time—perhaps this helps the argument of the
right hon. Member for Oldham, West and Royton (Mr. Meacher), who does not
appear to be in his place at the moment—when we should think about
cancelling, either without conditions or without too many conditions, the
debts that are causing some of the continuing problems
Apart
from hoping that the Secretary of State will carefully consider the
arguments made by my hon. Friend the Member for Sutton Coldfield about the
advocacy fund—a topic and policy in which I was glad to be involved in a
previous incarnation in the House—my primary argument is that we must
consider what gains the best leverage for the aid that is being translated
from this country to Africa.
I am sure
that many hon. Members are familiar with a very good body of work called
the Copenhagen consensus, in which a rigorous assessment was undertaken of
all the possible destinations for money in the developing countries and
how best that can gain a purchase on the things that really matter when
transforming those countries' structural inability to develop, so that
they grow and gain the potential for economic independence. Such things
were compared with many others that tended to be rather worthy.
I am
inevitably bound to mention malaria. Hon. Members will know that I have an
obsession with the need to tackle malaria. Rather than going through the
detail, I shall quote what the Copenhagen consensus suggested:
"Many
recommended malaria control interventions have a mean cost per
Disability-Adjusted Life Year"—
even
talking in those terms shows the hard-nosed assessments that we have to
make, which the Secretary of State has been trying to establish—
"of less
than . . . $50 a day and most of them less than . . . $25 which economists
consider highly attractive in a very low-income country. As judged by the
expert panel of Copenhagen Consensus, these are stunningly attractive
investments. This panel of distinguished economists ranked controlling
malaria as one of the top four global priorities that would yield the
largest benefit/cost ratio."
Given
that one of the other factors was dealing with climate change from the
western world, we need to consider carefully whether we should devote aid
to things other than health and education, clean water and the controlling
of infectious disease. They bring the greatest advantages. In addition, we
should free the rules for trade and support good governance.
How do we
get the money past the tyrants to the poorest people? We face a difficult
dichotomy. Where good governance exists, we should use it as a test and
reward it with aid directed via Governments, through a liaison committee
or non-governmental organisations. I used to think that aid should go
directly to NGOs, but to reward good governance we have to go through the
democratic processes so that democratically elected politicians gain some
credit for what they have done. We should reward them "pour encourager les
autres". Unfortunately, of course, les autres are often tyrants who do not
allow people in the poorest countries to know about good governance. That
is both a challenge and a dichotomy.
As there
is a restriction on the overall package, we should use the money to best
leverage effect and reward those who have shown good governance. It will
increase the confidence of the west in continuing and sustaining that
money if we ask for it to be directed where we would gain most leverage.
The Copenhagen consensus made it clear, through a rigorous test, that
controlling infectious disease was cost-effective. HIV/AIDS and TB
unquestionably belong in that category. So, too, does malaria, which is
hollowing out the generation of children that replaced those killed by
HIV/AIDS.
We must
concentrate on training people to deliver health care. Malaria is
treatable and curable. The all-party group on malaria recently produced a
persuasive report and I am grateful to the Under-Secretary for attending
its launch. We can all collectively be proud and confident that, rather
than just being worthy, we are making a huge and effective difference to
the future of Africa and its peoples.
Ann
McKechin (Glasgow, North) (Lab):
It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Eddisbury (Mr. O'Brien),
who made a thoughtful speech.
Our
debate will rightly concentrate on the statistical evidence of the need to
address Africa's poverty, to release its potential to grow and flourish,
but as the Commission for Africa report correctly states:
"We have to
remember that behind each statistic lies a child who is precious and
loved. Every day that child, and thousands like her, struggle for
breath—and for life—and tragically and painfully lose that fight."
I have
had the opportunity to visit Africa only since I was elected, and I have
witnessed the outstanding beauty of the continent and the warmth of its
people, but I recognise the scale of the challenge that they face and
their overwhelming desire for a better future. I am sure that the hon.
Member for Tewkesbury (Mr. Robertson) will remember our visit to Rwanda. I
shall never forget the scenes at the genocide site and the gacaca trial
that we attended.
Last
September, I visited Zambia on a British Council parliamentary exchange
and followed the hon. Regina Musokotwane around her constituency in the
rural south. We visited two schools. One had been opened by the state
government, after the local community had waited almost 30 years; the
other was built by local people themselves with supplies from a US
charity. They had no money for a qualified teacher. They had no power or
even a water borehole, and the school could offer only a basic syllabus
for the first two years of primary education. The people were incredibly
proud of their achievement—rightly so; but at the same time as my visit,
the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund were insisting on a nil
budget deficit to enable the Zambian Government to reach the heavily
indebted poor countries completion point. As a result, 5,000 qualified
teachers had no job and the World Bank representative in Zambia was
informing politicians that they should stop criticising his institution.
As the
commission's report points out, debt relief is key to achieving the
millennium development goals not only for the current HIPC group, but also
for many other nations in sub-Saharan Africa. Was the meeting of G7
Ministers earlier this month what the Chancellor described as "a historic
breakthrough" on the issue of debt? On certain key criteria, we can
definitely say yes, but with the caveat that the fight to establish fully
adequate debt relief has still some way to go.
I am
chair of the all-party group on debt, aid and trade—formerly the all-party
group on HIPC—and our group has long argued the justice of granting 100
per cent. debt relief to the world's poorest nations. I pay tribute to my
predecessor as chair of the group, Julia Drown, the former Member for
Swindon, South, for her marvellous work in pursuing that campaign. The
decision taken at the meeting to grant 100 per cent. debt relief not only
on the interest, but on the debt stock, for the world's 18 poorest
countries, with another nine to be added in the next couple of years, was
welcome.
The US
Administration changed stance by agreeing to include International
Monetary Fund debt as well as World Bank debt in the deal. That is
significant because IMF debt is extremely onerous and constitutes half of
all debt service obligations to the main multilateral institutions. The
agreement to replenish the funds of the international financial
institutions rather than reducing the amount available for grants was also
significant. That news, when added to the recent announcement by EU states
that they will effectively double their aid to Africa over the next five
years and set a timetable to reach the target of 0.7 per cent, is a leap
forward. I am sure that the private Member's Bill being promoted by my
right hon. Friend the Member for Coatbridge, Chryston and Bellshill (Mr.
Clarke), who is not in the Chamber, will help us to ensure that we reach
that target.
This in
itself is not however sufficient to allow Africa to meet its millennium
development goals. Let us not forget that that was what the international
community solemnly promised to achieve more than five years ago. We must
go a great deal further and acknowledge now that such additional effort is
achievable, rather than a pipe dream. Just last year, the international
community cancelled $30 billion of debt owed by Iraq, which is more than
has been delivered to the entire African continent over the past 10 years.
Even at
this late stage, the G8 summit should next week consider extending the
remit of the G7 debt proposal. The original HIPC list was drawn up in 1996
on a rather flimsy analytical basis and excluded key states such as Kenya
and Angola. Kenya's total debt is $5.5 billion and 70 million Kenyans live
on less than $1 a day, yet the World Bank considers its debt to be
sustainable, despite the fact that 32 per cent. of its national budget is
spent on servicing the debt, which is more than the amount spent on health
and education combined. According to a debt sustainability analysis by the
Jubilee debt campaign, Kenya needs total debt cancellation if it is ever
to realise its millennium development goals. Some Kenyan politicians have
suggested that the country is being penalised for keeping up debt
payments. Debt relief seems to remain as elusive as ever for such nations.
It has
been calculated that 35 non-HIPC, low-income countries warrant immediate
100 per cent. debt cancellation just so they can have a chance of meeting
their millennium goals. To be fair, the UK Government have recognised that
fact by agreeing to write off their share of multilateral debt for the
world's poorest nations.
This
month's agreement cancels only 10 per cent. of the debt owed by all 62
states with the lowest incomes which need 100 per cent. cancellation. The
deal will amount to $1 billion per year for the next 40 years. That is $40
billion in nominal terms, but it is perhaps more accurately described as a
net present value of $17 billion.
I know
that the US Administration was reluctant to accept the sale of IMF gold
reserves to fund debt relief and that an alternative decision was reached,
but given that we in the UK accept the case for using the IMF's vast
undervalued gold resources for the further extension of relief, will my
right hon. Friend the Secretary of State continue pressing the point in
the international community that we should give more relief and that we
have a method of expanding debt relief? The undervaluation is estimated at
$35 billion, so surely it is unreasonable to offer the people of Africa
less relief from odious debt than what is offered to the current Iraqi
Administration.
I
welcomed the deal on Nigeria that was reached this week at the Paris Club.
Will my right hon. Friend indicate the total amount of relief that will be
granted to Nigeria as a result of the initiative?
I turn
quickly to the conditionality that surrounds debt relief. Although I fully
accept that we must show that relief is genuinely used properly and
specifically for poverty eradication, I argue that multilateral
institutions must accept responsibility for the many mistakes that they
have made in the past by imposing inappropriate economic policies that
were not focused on poverty reduction. I welcome the paper by the
Department for International Development and the Treasury on
conditionality, which acknowledges that fundamental changes must be made.
I am
worried that those states that have still to reach the HIPC process—there
are a number of them—could find themselves in exactly the same position as
Zambia last year by spending all their energies on achieving nil budget
deficits, rather than employing teachers, who are vital in the fight
against poverty. The statement of the G7 Finance Ministers makes no
concession on that. Instead, it ambiguously refers to good governance,
accountability and transparency as crucial to releasing the benefits of
debt cancellation. That appears to be a further test applied to low-income
states on top of the already demanding requirements of the HIPC process.
It has
been difficult to draw the boundaries between good governance conditions
and economic policy conditions, with policy reforms, such as
privatisation, sometimes promoted on an anti-corruption basis. Of course,
there should be accountability, but as the hon. Member for Eddisbury (Mr.
O'Brien) said, if we truly wish to foster good governance and democracy in
a genuinely equal partnership with African Governments, we have to allow
them and their citizens to make their own economic decisions and to take
responsibility. Will the Minister assure me that the Government will press
for further relief not to be subject to economically damaging
conditionalities?
I
congratulate my right hon. and hon. Friends in the Department for
International Development on their enormous efforts over the past few
months to place Africa at the top of the G8 agenda next week. That is
proper and fit. To use a cliché, we are going forward and not back, but we
need to maintain that effort so that Africa achieves its full potential,
which is what we all desire. I hope that the Minister uses his good
efforts to persuade the G8 to go even further next week.
Tony
Baldry (Banbury) (Con):
The hon. Member for Glasgow, North (Ann McKechin) made an excellent
speech, which included some powerful points. She demonstrated that the
right hon. Member for Oldham, West and Royton (Mr. Meacher) was wrong to
dislike consensus. If hon. Members speak with a united voice, our message
is that much clearer to the rest of the world. There are others whom we
have to convince, not least Congress in the United States and colleagues
in other legislative Assemblies, that what we want to do, and what we are
promoting, is correct and that our policies are right. The House speaking
with one voice is powerful.
I want to
comment on climate change, conflict, capacity, commerce and commitment. On
climate change, we have to recognise that what is happening at Gleneagles
is not two separate debates on climate change and Africa, because they
relate to each other. Climate change is important for Africa and
developing countries. If I had one sadness in the last Parliament, it was
that the International Development Committee's report on climate change
and sustainable development did not get the coverage it deserved. I
commend it to hon. Members.
Vulnerable communities will suffer from climate change most. It also
contributes to conflict. One reason why we have problems in Darfur is that
the Sahel desert is moving south and there is more desertification.
Pastoralists who used to move their cattle around over the grass are
finding it more difficult to find grazing land. They, in turn, put
pressure on farmers, which led to conflict. That is all about climate
change. Getting both things right is important. I hope that the G8 tackles
Africa and climate change.
On
conflict, the Secretary of State was right when he talked about peer
review mechanisms and what is happening in Ghana and elsewhere, and with
NEPAD. That is brilliant. However, there is no peer group pressure in
Africa on conflict. There is no excuse for what is happening in Zimbabwe.
There is also no excuse for neighbouring countries not exerting peer group
pressure on Mugabe.
These
debates are brilliant, but we tend to have two lots of debates. We have
international development debates and we have foreign affairs debates, and
the two never come together. It would be wonderful if both Secretaries of
State were present or we at least had a Minister from the other Department
to wind up the debate. The issues all interrelate. I suspect one reason
why we do not have the sort of peer group pressure that we should have on
Zimbabwe is that the South Africans are concerned about the collapse of
Zimbabwe and what that would mean in terms of refugees coming across into
their country. There is still no excuse for the lack of pressure, however.
There is
no excuse for Nigeria not to hand over Charles Taylor to stand trial in
the war crimes tribunal in Sierra Leone. We understand that it got him out
of Liberia and provided him with asylum, but that was a long time ago. A
UN-backed warrant has been issued for Taylor to stand trial before a
UN-backed court. He should stand trial, and if he does not, I hope that
the UN war crimes tribunal will find a way of trying him in absentia. Such
trials happened at Nuremburg; I see no reason why they should not happen
in Freetown.
On
conflict, we do not seem to have a coherent strategy on military or other
intervention for the purposes of humanitarian relief. Everything is done
on an ad hoc basis: the French went into Cote d'Ivoire; we went into
Sierra Leone. We have a different mechanism now for Darfur. The African
Union is fine; those of us who have seen its work were very impressed, but
we are never quite sure how it is going to be funded. Different
Secretaries of State come to the Dispatch Box at different times and say
that it will be funded by NATO or the European Union, or perhaps by a bit
of money from the United Nations. There is absolutely no coherence on this
issue. If we have another humanitarian crisis in Africa, who will take the
lead? On what basis? According to what ground rules? There is also no
excuse for Ethiopia not acknowledging the international arbitration over
Ethiopia and Eritrea. In all these situations, there are some things that
Africa has to do and others that we have to do. We need much greater
coherence in regard to the way in which the international community
intervenes.
The
Commission for Africa's report clearly states that capacity is the most
important factor. One of the things that strikes us when we visit
Departments and Ministries in Africa is how thin the capacity is. The
report makes it clear that it is important that more be done to train
civil servants, and to develop higher and further education and skills in
Africa. About three quarters of those who leave Africa to pursue higher
education never return. What has happened to higher education in Africa
over the past couple of decades has been a tragedy, and it is now in need
of considerable investment. We also need to help parliamentarians in
Africa, as we have said on many occasions. We have organisations such as
the Commonwealth Parliamentary Association, and they should do more to
support parliamentarians in Africa, to enable them to understand what is
involved in holding Governments to account.
On
commerce, the figures show that Africa's economies need to grow by 7 per
cent. a year if there is to be any hope of meeting the millennium
development goals, yet many are growing by no more than 1 per cent. a
year. The vice-president of Sierra Leone was speaking today at Chatham
House about how his country was going to go forward, but very little is
happening there. It would be very difficult for its economy to grow by
more than 1 per cent. a year at the moment. During the last Parliament,
the International Development Committee went to South Africa. The
unemployment rate in many of the townships there was between 60 and 70 per
cent.
We all
talk about health, education and AIDS in Africa, but an issue that we must
all address is that of enterprise. Where are the new jobs going to come
from? We saw Lesotho get a toe-hold in the textile industry for a while,
only to get completely knocked off course by what is happening in China.
Of course, what happens at the WTO talks in Hong Kong later this year will
be very important, but south-south trade is also important, and there is a
great deal of trade that does not involve the reform of the WTO rules. It
is difficult to see how even a country as influential as South Africa can
be sustainable in the long term if it continues to have to support
unemployment rates of 60 or 70 per cent. We need to pay a lot more
attention to commerce.
On
commitment, some people believe that if we manage to achieve what the
Prime Minister and the Chancellor hope to achieve at Gleneagles, we shall
be able simply to tick that box. However, this is a really long-haul
issue. We are miles behind on the millennium development goals. What
leaves the greatest impression on my mind when I visit Africa is the
persistent, grinding, unremitting poverty that so many people have to
endure. We must tackle that problem, but it will not be done in a matter
of weeks or months; it will require a long-term commitment by all of us in
the House over many years. It is brilliant that there is now broad
cross-party agreement on that, because Governments—irrespective of their
political persuasion—will need to maintain that commitment over the next
five, 10 or 15 years. We have a simple choice as a civilisation—either we
get this right and meet the millennium development goals or we just turn
our back on Africa and shut the door. From some articles and reports in
the press it is clear that some people are urging us to do the latter.
They do not see the point of investing in Africa or of caring about it. We
care about Africans, because they are fellow human beings, and are as
valuable, valid and important as any other individual. Our commitment must
therefore be long term. The fact that in the past few years these issue
have risen up the political agenda in the House and the fact that the
Prime Minister and the Chancellor of the Exchequer are making a political
commitment are to be greatly applauded. Everyone in the House hopes that
they will succeed at the G8 conference and that we can take a definite
step forward to ensure that we meet the millennium development goals by
2015.
Mr.
John McFall (West Dunbartonshire) (Lab/Co-op):
I am grateful for the opportunity to speak in this debate. I pay tribute
to the sterling work that the hon. Member for Banbury (Tony Baldry) has
done as Chairman of the International Development Committee. We are all
grateful for his chairmanship of that Committee in the last Parliament. I
congratulate the hon. Member for Foyle (Mark Durkan) on his maiden speech
and, as has been said, his contribution over a period of many years to the
Northern Ireland peace process. It has been lonely and rocky, but it
needed courage, which he has shown in abundance. I welcome him to the
House and wish him well in his endeavours both as leader of the Social
Democratic and Labour party and as a Member of Parliament.
I
congratulate the Chancellor and the Secretary of State for International
Development on the agreement that they secured from the G8 Finance
Ministers. The fact that all multilateral debts and some bilateral debts
have been written off is a huge step forward. Congratulations should also
go to ordinary people. For many years, my constituents, as well as
churches and voluntary organisations in my constituency have worked with
me on the Jubilee 2000 campaign and other initiatives. More than 3,000 of
my constituents signed up to those campaigns, so there is enormous
enthusiasm locally. Many events have taken place in my local schools over
the years. More than a year ago, on my return from a visit to Zambia, we
organised a Christmas response to the problems there. Almost £18,000 was
generated by the local community, including primary schools. St. Michael's
primary school in my constituency, for example, contributed £1,500.
Christie Park school mounted a spontaneous concert and gathered £200 from
parents as they came to collect their children from school. Secondary
schools, including the Vale of Leven academy, Dumbarton academy and, in
particular, Our Lady and St. Patrick's high school have a taken lifelong
interest in the subject.
Eammon
Cullen is one of the teaching colleagues with whom I used to work. He
teaches at Our Lady and St. Patrick's, where he organised a justice and
peace group. It has been in existence for more than 20 years, so the young
people in my constituency can say that they worked on these initiatives
before we did. I pay tribute to Eammon and his colleagues. He is about to
retire after 30 years' teaching service in Our Lady and St. Patrick's
school, but his interest will not decline and he will work with renewed
vigour on justice and peace and other issues that are vital to the
Gleneagles summit. Without that groundswell of support, the Government and
the G8 would not be where they are. May I therefore suggest to the
Minister that, given the enthusiasm of young people in my constituency and
elsewhere, he and the Secretary of State should devise an initiative to
engage them? They could provide finance and opportunities for them to
engage with a particular country in Africa and thus achieve a constituency
focus on the subject. The only way we will take the goals forward is by
passing the task from generation to generation. Given the good work that
young people have undertaken to date, I would like the Government to
respond with an initiative such as I have suggested.
We have a
once in a lifetime opportunity, as has been said. The UK is hosting the G8
summit, the UK holds the EU presidency, the UN summit on the millennium
development goals is taking place later in the year, and the World Trade
Organisation ministerial meeting will be held in Hong Kong in December. To
date we have failed miserably on the millennium development goals. The
rich nations pledged that there would be primary education for all in the
developing countries by 2015, but present estimates indicate that it will
not be universally available until 2130—115 years late. The rich nations
pledged to halve poverty by 2015, but that will not be achieved until
2150—135 years late. The rich nations pledged to eliminate avoidable
infant deaths, but that will not be achieved until 2165—150 years late.
If a
citizen of one of the developing countries asked whether there was any
justice in the world, the answer would manifestly be no. Does that make
the task impossible for us? Certainly not. There needs to be a much more
urgent focus on the three intertwining strands of aid, trade and debt. We
have heard today about aid to Africa. From 1981 to 2001 the number of poor
people in Africa doubled from 164 million to 313 million. That level of
deprivation is unconscionable. It is accompanied by disease, conflict and
squalor.
The
injustice in global trade has been mentioned. The rich countries' massive
support and protection for their own agriculture is paradoxical, since
agriculture is the sector with the greatest potential in Africa to
decrease poverty and achieve the pro-poor engagement that is so crucial,
particularly to rural Africa. On debt, notwithstanding the agreement that
has been made—we do not yet know the details—Africa still owes almost $300
billion and pays off $15 billion a year in interest and fees. Only seven
states out of the 53 in the African Union have seen their debts reduced to
sustainable levels.
I
mentioned Zambia. I have had a number of contacts with civic society in
Lusaka, having visited on a few occasions and having welcomed
representatives of that society in the United Kingdom. One of my friends,
Peter Henriot, runs the Jesuit Centre for Theological Reflection in
Lusaka. Peter and his group undertook an economic, social and cultural
rights survey in March this year. One of the issues on which they focused
for countries like ours was employment. At present 90 per cent. of
Zambians are unemployed or work in precarious conditions in the informal
sector. They are hampered by inadequate skills, inadequate capital and
inadequate support for infrastructure. When we discuss aid, it is
important to focus on transport and other aspects to ensure that people in
rural areas can be involved in and welcomed into the country's economic
development.
Despite
the fact that the Zambian Government provide free primary education,
education is gradually becoming the privilege of the very few. Tuition
fees in colleges and in the two universities in Zambia range between US$60
a year and US$1,600, which is beyond the reach of the vast majority of
Zambians. On public health, my colleagues tell me that only 15 per cent.
of houses have access to proper toilet facilities. The 2000 census on
population and housing indicates that although 49 per cent. have access to
safe water, 51 per cent. do not. The lack of access to clean water and
sanitation presents a huge risk to public health in that country. The
statistics are dismal, but they remind us of our task.
Mention
has been made of the economic and social progress that our country had to
make, so let us compare our country with Zambia. In the UK, the death rate
per 1,000 population is 10.8, whereas it is 20.23 in Zambia, which is
double the UK rate. In the UK, infant mortality is 5.16 per 1,000 live
births, whereas it is 112 in Zambia. In the UK, life expectancy is 78.5
years, whereas it is 37 years in Zambia, where 23 per cent. of under-fives
are underweight, too.
The hon.
Member for Mid-Bedfordshire (Mrs. Dorries) asked, "Why has Africa gone
backwards?" Africa has gone backwards since the 1960s. Living standards
and growth levels in Africa in the 1960s were greater than they were in
the 1990s, but does that mean that we should halt our support—
Mr.
Deputy Speaker (Sir Alan Haselhurst):
Order.
Pete
Wishart (Perth and North Perthshire) (SNP):
Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, for allowing me the opportunity to
participate in what has been, as expected, a fascinating and enthralling
debate.
I pay
tribute to the maiden speech by the hon. Member for Foyle (Mark Durkan).
His reputation precedes him, and I am sure that he is a worthy successor
to John Hume. In the summer, an SDLP Member and I are visiting the
Democratic Republic of the Congo, and I am looking forward to it.
As has
been said, Africa is a huge subject, and no one speech can do justice to
the myriad issues. My particular concerns are the conditions imposed on
debt relief—so-called conditionalities—and compliance, which concerns the
international community's failure to honour its commitments to Africa in
previous years and decades. I will even suggest a mechanism, which would
be easy to set up, by which we can honour any new commitments that might
be made at next week's G8 summit.
The
Government's decision to place Africa on the G8 summit agenda was
inspired, and I congratulate them on galvanising public opinion and making
Africa part of the public consciousness, which has created an almost
unstoppable and insatiable demand finally to address African poverty.
However, expectations are heady and the issue could become a cross for
them to bear, because the British public expect the rhetoric to be matched
by action. I urge the Government not to resort to their Pavlovian instinct
of spinning—some of the Chancellor's contributions have come close—because
the British public, who expect action to be taken, will find them out.
Next
week, the expectation will reach a crescendo as the G8 circus eventually
rolls into Perthshire. I am sure that Scotland will be an excellent host,
and I am looking forward to it putting on an excellent show. I will be
marching with colleagues in the Make Poverty History march in Edinburgh on
Saturday and am also fortunate enough to have secured my tickets for next
week's Live 8 event at Murrayfield, where I look forward to seeing the
cream of Scotland's artists and international acts.
It is an
understatement to say that my constituents in Perthshire, along with
people in Edinburgh and throughout the rest of Scotland, are bracing
themselves for the arrival of the G8 summit with a mixture of
apprehension, concern and anxiety. Perthshire will bear the brunt of any
pain created in the next few weeks, but hopefully it will also gain,
because we will be highly visible throughout next week as images of our
beautiful corner of the country are transmitted across the world.
Like all
hon. Members, I hope that real progress is finally made on addressing
African poverty at the G8 summit. The G8 summit has rightly been described
as a once-in-a-generation opportunity to get to grips with the problem,
and it is there to be grasped. It would be fantastic if that beautiful
little corner of Scotland is for ever and a day associated with making
progress in Africa, and it would be wonderful if the "Perthshire accord",
or whatever we call it, were for ever remembered for starting to make
poverty history.
It now
seems as if everybody and their granny is getting involved in the debate
about Africa. Even the BBC has discovered where Africa is and has shown
some fantastic programmes in the past few weeks. Of course, all my old
chums from the world of rock and roll are gearing themselves up for the
Live 8 concerts next week. Although I do not share Bono's view that Blair
and Brown are the Lennon and McCartney of international politics—my hon.
Friends and I see them more as its Laurel and Hardy—I welcome the
contribution that Bono, Bob Geldof and the rest of these international
artists have made to creating the groundswell of public support for trying
to deal effectively with poverty in Africa.
But in
order to make progress on Africa, it is time for the politics to kick in.
That is our job. We must finally ensure that there is compliance and that
we get the best possible deal that we can in order to address African
poverty. The last thing that anybody wants is for this massive circus to
come into town, say a few words, and then pull up its pegs and go on its
way again. There would be massive frustration and disappointment if we
were marched to the top of the African hill only to be marched all the way
down again.
That is
why in recent weeks I have called for a legacy—a permanent resource—to be
left behind in Perthshire to ensure that whatever is agreed to next week
is adhered to and that the commitment has been made. We must have some
mechanism in place to ensure that the big promises that we expect to be
announced next week are finally turned into reality on the ground, that
the work is co-ordinated, and that any agreements reached at Gleneagles
are effectively monitored and acted upon. I have even written to the Prime
Minister to suggest the establishment of a co-ordinating centre bringing
together the G8 Governments, the African nations, the non-governmental
organisations, the charities, and the academics involved in this field to
establish best practice and to ensure that all the commitments that we
have made to Africa are delivered. Of course that should be financed by
the G8 and should be in beautiful Perthshire near to the site of
Gleneagles.
Compliance is important. When we look at the record of the G8 nations, we
have to acknowledge that their compliance has been pretty poor in terms of
what they have agreed to in their summits and the commitments that they
have given to the developing world. The international community has
consistently let Africa down at times when it has promised the earth. We
are nowhere near meeting our international commitments. The millennium
development goals now seem like nothing other than distant aspirations.
There has been no real progress on the targets that were set on HIV/AIDS,
peace-building, and so on. We have gone backwards in Africa instead of
forwards. Following the Toronto G8, research found that G8 members comply
only modestly with their commitments. That cannot happen with important
commitments to Africa, which is why the legacy—the permanent resource—must
be left behind. We cannot allow Africa to be left on its own once more.
While
compliance is being monitored, it should also be possible to look at the
conditions for aid. The setting of conditions for debt relief and aid
should be as apolitical as possible. Politically dogmatic western
Governments should not be trying to impose their political will on African
Governments. I have big problems with the conditions imposed on debt
relief by the G8 Finance Ministers in recent weeks. Yes, we must tackle
poor governance and corruption. Corruption cripples poor nations,
especially in Africa.
I
recognise that, as the hon. Member for Eddisbury (Mr. O'Brien) said,
tensions are involved in tackling poor governance and corruption, but we
should do what we can to ensure that those who are subject to appalling
dictators and despots are not left in the poverty in which they find
themselves. We have to be just that little bit more creative in how we
deal with the tensions. It is not good enough to draw up lists of the
worthy and deserving and, by implication, a list of those who have been
discarded. No one can argue against good governance, and everybody would
want aid to be targeted to the nations and regimes that will ensure that
it is passed on to their populations, but I am concerned when those
conditionalities start to intrude into how Governments should govern.
The right
hon. Member for Oldham, West and Royton (Mr. Meacher) mentioned the
Finance Ministers' report, in which they referred to
"eliminating
impediments to private investment".
What they
meant was that commercialisation, privatisation and the liberalisation—
Mr.
Walker:
Does the
hon. Gentleman agree that the rule of law and property rights in South
Africa have encouraged private investment, and have made that country a
beacon of hope in Africa? Before he dismisses private investment entirely,
perhaps he should consider what it has done for South Africa over the past
decade.
Pete
Wishart:
I thank the
hon. Gentleman for those remarks, and I agree with them. In some
instances, private investment is exactly the right way to go, but the
one-size-fits-all approach of western Governments demanding liberalisation
and privatisation is a step too far. The right hon. Member for Oldham,
West and Royton mentioned the example of Uganda and the privatisation
without regulation that costs that nation millions of pounds. It gets
worse—to qualify for the next round of debt relief, the Ugandan Government
must sell their water supplies, agricultural services and commercial
banks, probably at great loss to that nation again.
John
Hemming (Birmingham, Yardley) (LD):
Does the hon. Gentleman agree that one can distinguish between the need
for the rule of law and privatisation? One can have the rule of law
without necessarily having privatisation.
Pete
Wishart:
Absolutely.
The hon. Gentleman makes a good point, and I hope that he has an
opportunity to expand on that if he catches your eye, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
Certain things work for certain countries, but the attitude that western
Governments must impose their view of what should happen in Africa
concerns me most.
Lastly, I
want to acknowledge the role of Scotland. We are hosting the G8, and we
will have all those fantastic demonstrations. I hope that Scotland will be
seen positively around the world, and that the events pass off peacefully.
I am concerned about some of the security and policing issues—I still do
not know who will meet the £100 million expected costs of hosting the G8,
and I certainly hope that it will not be the council tax payers of Perth
and Kinross.
I want to
praise Scotland's First Minister, however, for undertaking his mission to
Malawi several weeks ago. He has rightly upped Scotland's international
ambition by taking that trip, and I hope that he is congratulated by the
Minister in the wind-up. The First Minister has acknowledged that Scotland
has a particular and specific role to play in the developing world,
especially in nations such as Malawi, with which we have a great
association through the work of David Livingstone and Christian
missionaries in the 19th century. I hope that that is noticed. The First
Minister acknowledged that we have that distinctive role—I agree with
him—and I am glad that he did so.
If we can
achieve that in Malawi, however, surely we can do it in other nations,
too. I do not want Scotland's ambition thwarted; I want to see Scotland do
a lot more of that. I encourage the First Minister, the Scottish Executive
and the Scottish Parliament to undertake more of that type of work. I also
believe that were we a sovereign, self-governing nation, we would reach
that 0.7 per cent. target, as other small nations have done, which has
proved elusive for some of the larger Governments.
I am
looking forward to next week, which I think will be a fantastic week for
Scotland, and to a new role for Scotland internationally. Let us ensure,
however, that any decisions taken at Gleneagles in Perthshire next week
are acted on, and that we get compliance. Let us ensure, too, that we do
not make eliminating poverty conditional.
Gordon
Banks (Ochil and South Perthshire) (Lab):
In approaching this debate, I am reminded of the defining statement of the
Labour party, produced on the back of each membership card:
"by the
strength of our common endeavour we achieve more than we achieve alone".
Through
that statement of principle and notion of solidarity, I hope that our
fellow parliamentarians and legislators around the world, and our fellow
people around the world, come together sincerely to address the huge
injustice that exists in Africa.
Levels of
poverty in Africa are beyond that which many of us in the Chamber can
comprehend. Despite the images on our television screens, and the reports
from Sudan, Ethiopia, Kenya and other nations, we cannot truly comprehend
what it must be like to live on £1 a week or a small portion of rice a
day, or to walk miles just to collect a small amount of water. Our life of
relative luxury does not come close to the endless hardships faced by the
people of Africa. By the strength of our common endeavour, however, we
have already begun to achieve something.
In
Uganda, debt relief of £700 million in 2000 helped to increase its poverty
reduction budget by 75 per cent. Since then, Uganda has abolished health
user fees, and attendance in clinics has risen by a staggering 87 per
cent. In Rwanda, the revenue authority has increased revenue by 40 per
cent. over two years, allowing the Government to double spending on health
and education and improving the lives of many Rwandans, both young and
old. Possibly more importantly, we have written off 100 per cent. of the
debt owed by the poorest countries to the UK.
We cannot
become complacent, however. We cannot stop working towards a greater good
for the continent of Africa. In a week's time, the leaders of the world's
eight richest nations will meet at the Gleneagles hotel in my
constituency. This will be a real chance to increase the speed at which
change is brought about and to give back to Africa some of what was taken
from it during the years of imperial rule.
Debt
relief is a vital part of the relief of poverty in Africa. Nations can
spend a lifetime simply paying back the interest on their debts. All too
often, the moneys involved are small for western nations but huge for the
African nations, where the debts hang round countries' necks, prohibiting
their development and progress.
This
Labour Government's commitment to debt relief has led the way for other
nations. The Prime Minister, with the Secretary of State for International
Development and the Chancellor of the Exchequer, has constantly maintained
the pressure on other nations to join our campaign to eradicate poverty.
We now see the beginnings of the international finance facility, pledges
to ensure that Government spending on aid reaches 0.7 per cent. of GDP,
and a dedication to wipe out the debts of those nations so that they can
begin to lift their citizens out of poverty.
However,
debt relief must be coupled with governance changes in those countries.
Democracy needs to be strengthened, and corruption stemmed. We must
provide the necessary assistance to individual African nations to help
them to diversify and stimulate internal and external economic
relationships, and to become more fiscally understanding of the needs of
good governance.
We cannot
simply write off debt in the hope that countries that have been ravaged by
dictatorship, military rule and war will bloom into model nation states.
Corruption is a huge problem, and improvements must be made to ensure that
the assistance reaches the people whom it is meant to reach. We cannot
assume that individual nations can always make those changes on their own.
We must provide them with the help that they need to take those steps, so
as to guarantee that the debt relief that this Government and many others
have fought to secure can be effectively managed.
Addressing debt relief and governance will not solve all Africa's
problems, however. There were 40 million people living with HIV/AIDS in
Africa in 2003, with 5 million new infections in that year alone. HIV/AIDS
directly or indirectly affects nearly everyone in Africa. Hundreds of
thousands of children are left orphaned by parents who have contracted the
disease, and the stigma attached to the illness breaks up communities. The
cost of drugs that help fight the infection make those who suffer even
poorer.
The IFF
will allow us to build the health care systems that those countries need
to combat HIV/AIDS, and to implement a plan for prevention and care—and, I
hope, one day a cure. Nelson Mandela said that AIDS is a curse that we
must not deny, and better education in countries such as South Africa can
help to set the world on the right track in combating HIV/AIDS. Campaigns
waged by religious groups encouraging young people not to use condoms must
be addressed, and the denial of assistance by foreign governments to
organisations that provide condoms as a method of HIV/AIDS prevention
should also be corrected. Religious beliefs should not be ignored, but
neither should the devastating consequences of such misdirected advice.
The cost
of AIDS drugs to many in Africa is phenomenal. All too often, western
companies charge more per dose in developing nations than in their home
nations. I cannot place a price on the cost of a human life—but it appears
that many pharmaceutical companies can. I see companies with soaring
profits that publish catalogues of their compassion in helping developing
nations, but still charge just enough for HIV/AIDS treatment to ensure
that their shareholders dividends are kept high. They give with one hand
and take away with the other.
The IFF
advance purchase scheme could prevent more than 1 million deaths a year.
The work by the Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunisation and the
generosity of the Gates Foundation have helped to secure vaccinations for
50 million children around the world. I am proud to see the £1 billion
pledged by this Government to the finance facility for immunisation. That
is a real start to addressing the plague of diseases that blight so many
countries in Africa, and attention must now be drawn to how we can tackle
the damage done by malaria.
Scottish
First Minister Jack McConnell's comment that the west is increasingly
developing rampant consumerism and a "must have" culture, leading us to
huge waste, is correct. Consumerism and the protectionism that is so
closely associated with it hold back nations that are struggling to
develop. As the Chancellor said yesterday in his speech to UNICEF, we
should be opening our markets and removing trade-distorting subsidies. We
must more urgently tackle the waste caused by the common agricultural
policy by setting a date for the end of export subsidies.
I am
confident that through our presidency of the European Union we shall be
able to begin to address the issues of agricultural subsidies, and help to
combat trade issues which mean that it is cheaper to import rice from
America to southern Senegal than to grow it and transport it from the
north of Senegal to the south. Big business should not profit from the
expense of people and the environment. Greater corporate responsibility
must go hand in hand with freer trade. We must end the export dumping that
damages the livelihoods of the poorest communities in Africa. We must
fight corruption, work to improve the health and education of millions of
people in Africa, implement debt relief programmes and investment, and
open the markets to provide a truly free-trade environment.
The
fruits of this Labour Government's leadership in regard to poverty in
Africa are already beginning to show. Even President Bush's comments
yesterday reflect the willingness of other nations to listen to my right
hon. Friends the Prime Minister, the Chancellor of the Exchequer and the
Secretary of State for International Development. However, I urge those
who will attend the G8 summit at Gleneagles next week not to let this
opportunity pass. We have been here before. We have seen discussions take
place on the need to address poverty and debt relief in which much has
been promised and little delivered. I hope that the actions of my right
hon. and hon. Friends at DFID in recent years have shown that this time it
is different, and we will deliver. I fear, though, that a watered-down
result from next week's discussions may harm future attempts to address
global poverty, despite the advances that we may make at Gleneagles.
John
Barrett (Edinburgh, West) (LD):
It is a great pleasure to follow two Members—the hon. Members for Perth
and North Perthshire (Pete Wishart) and for Ochil and South Perthshire
(Gordon Banks)—who represent different parts of Perthshire, where the G8
summit will be held. Apart from the summit, we shall have the Make Poverty
History march, which will take place in my own city of Edinburgh, the
Live8 concert, which will be attended by the hon. Member for Perth and
North Perthshire, and the descent of the potential million forecast by Bob
Geldof on the city during the following week.
The
summit may constitute one of the most significant meetings ever to take
place in Scotland. The decisions and agreements made there will
undoubtedly have a huge impact on the future of not just Africa but the
entire planet. The G8 nations account for 65 per cent. of global GDP and
47 per cent. of global carbon dioxide emissions. With climate change and
Africa dominating next week's G8 agenda, it is no exaggeration to say that
those countries, acting together, could make an enormous difference on
both issues.
As the
Prime Minister said several years ago, Africa remains a scar on the
conscience of the world. Despite all the words and all the promises, the
scar is far from being healed. For too many years, political leaders have
sat on their hands making grand gestures when real action has been
required. The G8 summit marks a unique opportunity for the UK to lead the
way and broker an agreement to help Africa lift itself out of the extreme
poverty that it is experiencing. It is an opportunity that we cannot
afford to squander.
It is
important to pay tribute to the work of the Make Poverty History campaign,
which has been extraordinarily successful in bringing this issue to the
forefront of debate in the House and throughout the country. For many
years, I have witnessed at first hand in Africa the terrible effect of
poverty and also the real potential for the future. Allowing Africa to
take control of that future requires meaningful action on our part in
three fundamentally important areas: aid, debt and trade.
We must
be committed to the principle of fair trade, not just free trade. We must
drop the remaining debts that continue to cripple so many African
countries, and we need all the G8 countries to make real strides towards
meeting the requirements on international aid to achieve the millennium
development goals. At the same time, it is crucial that we continue to
tackle corruption, and support and encourage the transition to stable
democracy throughout Africa.
It is
clear that poverty in Africa cannot be eradicated without a major increase
in international aid. The millennium development goals require that all
countries work toward providing 0.7 per cent. of their national income in
aid. The target is both realistic and achievable, but currently only five
of the 22 major donors have met it. The UK Government have done well
finally to establish a timetable for reaching the target, but 11 donors
still have no timetable and many appear to be in no hurry. If current
trends continue, Canada will not reach the target until 2025 and Germany
will not do so before 2087.
What is
more, the sums that rich countries currently invest in tackling global
poverty remain embarrassingly small. Even worse, the wealthier that these
countries have become, the less they have given. The sad truth is that
today, the world's richest countries give half as much, as a proportion of
their income, as they did in the 1960s. The Government of the USA, the
richest country in the world, spend just 0.1 per cent. of gross domestic
product on aid, yet the same Government are able to find twice as much to
spend on the war in Iraq as they would need to spend to increase their aid
budget to 0.7 per cent. of GDP. I very much hope that the G8 summit will
provide the Prime Minister with the opportunity to show the benefits of
his special relationship with George Bush by his persuading the USA to
commit to those increases.
On top of
this, too often the aid and assistance that we have given has been
unhelpfully politicised. In recent years, the very goals of development
aid have been redefined to suit the new security agenda. For example, in
Denmark, Japan and Australia, combating terrorism is now an explicit aim
of official aid programmes. It is a question of priorities, and I am
afraid that ending poverty in Africa is simply not at the top of that
list. In recent years, it has not even been close.
It is
clear that poverty in Africa will not be solved by simply throwing money
at it. Without a wide-ranging change in how aid is delivered, it will not
achieve maximum benefit. Aid needs to focus better on the needs of the
poorest, which means more being spent on basic health care and education,
for example. Aid should no longer be conditional on recipients promising
economic changes such as privatisation or deregulation of services, and
the interests of the donor country certainly should not be put above those
of the recipient. Currently, almost 30 per cent. of G7 aid is tied to an
obligation to buy goods and services from the donor country. That is a
truly shameful statistic.
It is
worth noting that many countries that we now consider "developed" would
not enjoy their current economic status but for their having received
substantial amounts of aid. Lest we forget, after the second world war, 16
western European nations—ourselves included—benefited from grants from the
USA worth more than $75 billion in today's terms. Those grants underpinned
our economic recovery and have helped to create today's climate of peace
and prosperity. More recently, EU structural funds have supported growth
in Spain and in other southern European countries. Yet even though it has
been proven that aid can work effectively, African countries have not yet
benefited from the same generosity.
I will
not say much on debt, given the Chancellor's recent announcements about
increasing the number of countries to be freed from debt, which were
welcome. I hope that they will be followed by the announcement of more
initiatives in the week ahead. But even if African countries are freed
from debt, their situation can only improve with a change in the way that
we trade with them. By developing a genuinely liberal and international
trade policy, we can enable major opportunities for growth and development
in the parts of the world that need it most. Currently, the rules of
international trade remain stacked in the favour of the richest and most
powerful countries. Opening European markets to the products of the
poorest countries would help their economies, and stopping the dumping of
subsidised EU food in Africa would help African farmers to become more
self-sufficient. These basic acts could do more than aid could possibly
hope to achieve. An increase in Africa's share of world exports of just 1
per cent. would be enough to raise the equivalent of more than five times
the total amount of aid given to that region.
We are
part of the solution, but we are also part of the problem. A timely report
published last week by Oxfam and Amnesty International highlighted the
extent to which the UK and other G8 countries are exporting arms to many
African countries, fuelling poverty, oppression and human rights abuses.
The report pointed out that Britain, France and the US have made more
money in the past four years from arms exports to Asia, Africa, the middle
east and South America than they have offered to those regions in
humanitarian aid. This report comes at just the right time to remind us of
our role in Africa's plight. Rather than just being spectators to a
crisis, in many instances we are playing a leading role.
Poverty
in Africa has been created and sustained not merely by chance or nature,
but by a combination of factors—injustice in global trade, the huge burden
of debt, insufficient and ineffective aid and global warming. They all
play their part and each of those factors is determined by human
decisions, yet we continue to condemn Africa to a future of poverty
through our consistent failure to act on those issues.
We are
partly responsible for the continuing plight of much of Africa and we must
start living up to that responsibility. We need to recognise that we have
a responsibility and a moral obligation to act. A good test of the
humanity of a society is how it treats the least privileged—and many of
them live in Africa. The eyes of the world are on the G8 next week. We
must all ensure that, after everyone has gone home, the momentum is
maintained.
We could
do worse than follow the example of one of my own constituents, John
Mackay, who has launched an organisation called Sailing for Justice.
Included in that organisation's project is a non-stop circumnavigation of
the world, starting and ending in Scotland and taking the Make Poverty
History message around the globe. Through this year and the next, we in
the House must, like my constituent, continue our commitment for as long
as it takes to make poverty history.
Chris
McCafferty (Calder Valley) (Lab):
I begin by acknowledging the immense progress made on debt relief and
poverty eradication through the leadership shown by the Secretary of State
for International Development and the Chancellor of the Exchequer in
developing pro-poor polices, which can only benefit all developing
countries, and particularly the poorest countries in Africa.
I am sure
that hon. Members on both sides of the House would agree that among the
major causes of poverty in Africa are poor maternal and child heath, the
status of women and HIV/AIDS. I believe that major and sustained
interventions in sexual and reproductive health are vital for the future
of Africa and are the key to sustainable development there.
Sub-Saharan Africa is the world's poorest place, with 70 per cent. of its
people living on less than $2 a day. Fertility is highest in the poorest
countries as well as among the poorest people in those societies. It
should be no surprise that those same places have the highest levels of
unmet need for family planning and reproductive health services. According
to the environmental sustainability taskforce, that need, together with
health, education and gender equality issues, must be addressed with
policies and programmes that will slow population growth and realise
synergistic improvements. At a national level, fertility reduction may
enable accelerated social and economic development. Conversely, the
absence of sexual and reproductive health and rights undermines
development.
It is
widely recognised that reproductive illness and unintended pregnancies
detract from economic development, whether by weakening or killing adults,
disrupting and cutting short the lives of their children or placing heavy
financial burdens on their families. Sexual and reproductive health and
rights also deals with poverty and development in the wider context. The
ability to exercise rights and freedoms of choice brings
self-determination, which, in turn, has a direct impact on individuals'
ability to emerge from poverty.
Sub-Saharan Africa is confronted by continuing high population growth,
youthful populations, low contraceptive prevalence, the highest rates of
HIV/AIDs and high unmet need for family planning. Poor reproductive health
accounts for 40 per cent. of the diseases suffered by women and one in 20
women in Africa die from pregnancy-related causes, in comparison with one
in 16 in sub-Saharan Africa. Yet, if all the available condoms in Africa
were evenly distributed, each man would receive only three or four per
year. There is a huge gap between the demand for condoms and the funding
available for them.
Of the
world's 875 million illiterate adults, two thirds are women. Gender
equality is a catalyst for development because women who can plan the
timing of their pregnancies and the number of children that they have have
greater opportunities for work and education. Empowering people to
exercise their rights over fertility and to choose the number and spacing
of their children is a very powerful tool in the fight to reduce poverty.
Gender
equality is essential for achieving the millennium development goals. It
cannot be achieved without guaranteeing the sexual and reproductive health
and rights of women and girls.
Seven
priorities for action have been identified by the gender and education
taskforce in order to achieve gender equality. One of them is ensuring
access to sexual and reproductive health and rights. Specific
interventions to address gender inequality should be an intrinsic part of
all MDG-based investment packages. There should also be systematic
challenges, such as the protection of sexual and reproductive health and
rights, including access to information and family planning services.
One
African in two is under the age of 20. More than 40 million of Africa's
children are not in school, and two thirds of them are girls. Families
with fewer children spaced further apart can invest more in each child's
education. That, of course, is of particular benefit to girls, as a girl's
education may have a significantly lower priority than the education of a
boy child in the family.
Children
in large families are likely to have reduced health care, and unwanted
children are much more likely to die than wanted ones. Our mission in
relation to child mortality is clear. Where mothers live, their children
are much more likely to live. Where mothers are healthy, their children
have a much better chance of being, and staying, healthy.
There are
529,000 maternal deaths each year, and half of them are in Africa. Every
day, 1,400 women die from preventable pregnancy-related causes. The child
health and maternal health taskforce recommends that an additional target
be included for monitoring the fifth of the millennium development goals,
which is to achieve universal access to reproductive health service by
2015, through the primary health care system, and to ensure the same rate
of progress, or faster, among the poor and other marginalised groups.
More than
17 million Africans have died from AIDS, and another 25 million are
infected with the HIV virus. Approximately 1.9 million of those are
children. UNAIDS estimates that, this year alone, another 3 million people
in sub-Saharan Africa will be infected with HIV.
Our
approach to HIV/AIDS should be based on an integrated model of sexual and
reproductive health care. The Millennium Project's HIV taskforce stated:
"The fight
against HIV/AIDS and the broader struggle for reproductive health should
be mutually reinforcing."
National
Governments should incorporate universal access to reproductive health and
sexual health services and information as an integral part of their AIDS
responses.
I am sure
hon. Members of all parties would agree that the empowerment of women is a
development end in itself. Removing the obstacles to women's exercise of
economic and, indeed, political power is also one of the most important
ways to end poverty. Reproductive health is a part of an essential package
of health care and education. It is a means to the goal of women's
empowerment, but it is also a human right. It includes the right to choose
the size and spacing of the family. It is by far the easiest and most
cost-effective way to help people of all nations out of poverty, and it is
essential to ensuring that the millennium development goals are achieved.
It has
been said twice already in the debate that we have a once-in-a-lifetime
opportunity at the G8 and the summit on the millennium development goals.
I know that the Government believe that better reproductive health is
crucial to reducing poverty in Africa and I hope that my hon. Friend the
Minister will be able to tell the House in his response to the debate that
the Government will push reproductive health and rights in discussions at
the G8 and push for their inclusion at the millennium development goals
summit in September.
Mr.
Peter Lilley (Hitchin and Harpenden) (Con):
I am grateful for the opportunity to participate in this debate. It is
also a privilege to follow the hon. Member for Calder Valley (Chris
McCafferty) and I congratulate her on selecting an issue on which she has
obviously made herself an expert. She focused on that issue and
contributed thoughtfully to the debate. I hope that she will excuse me if
I do not follow her on that issue.
I am not
a rock star, so I do not bring the particular expertise that membership of
that profession brings to the economic problems of Africa, but I am one of
few MPs—if not the only one—to have devoted the best part of a decade
before becoming an MP to working on aid and development projects, mostly
in Africa. I hope that I can draw on that experience to contribute to this
debate. I worked in countries as diverse as Ethiopia, Zaire, the Republic
of the Congo—the former French Congo—Kenya, Tanzania, Uganda and Cameroon
at a time when they were full of hope and enthusiasm and it seemed that
the possibility of progress from poverty to prosperity was real.
Subsequently, I saw the heartbreaking decline and reversal in many of
those countries into deeper poverty, greater disease, conflict and
distress. No one is more passionately committed than I am to seeing
poverty made history and to seeing the goals of that campaign achieved. I
recognise the good faith of those who support that campaign— and
especially the Secretary of State in the contribution he made today. I
also recognise the genuine support that has welled up in the country as a
whole.
However,
I hope that I have earned from my past work the right to puncture some of
the complacent endorsement that has perhaps been a characteristic of this
debate—certainly of the debate outside—of everything that has been done in
the name of making poverty history. I am concerned that as well as
supporting many genuine and desirable objectives, the campaign could
become a vehicle for anti-free trade, anti-free market and
anti-globalisation attitudes and policies that, if pursued, would be
damaging to Africa, and all too often embody a patronising attitude
towards Africans that in some cases borders on racism.
Those
anti-free market and often patronising attitudes were prevalent within the
aid agencies when I worked for them in Africa many years ago. However, all
my experience of working with Africans, who became friends and valued
colleagues, convinced me that those attitudes are wrong. Africans have the
same number of grey cells as any other race. They have the same desire to
better themselves, their families and their communities. They have the
same capacity for hard work, ingenuity and enterprise as any other
country. It is sad that, for example, the advertisement that appears today
in many newspapers has a headline that implies that eight white men in a
room in one day can solve the problems of Africa, with the implication
that 680 million Africans are effectively relegated to the status of
recipients of the largesse, wisdom and power of those eight gentlemen. In
my view, that is nonsense and, in my experience, it is incorrect.
I did
many studies for the UN Economic Commission for Africa and the UN
Industrial Development Organisation, in which I identified a viable
project located in a country where its inhabitants were free to invest. In
many instances, that project was duly implemented by local entrepreneurs,
often before the aid agencies had finished processing the report or the
local government had got round to seeing whether it wanted the project to
happen or not. Where African people have the freedom in their own
countries and the access to foreign markets to prosper, they will take
those opportunities, and they will prosper. So our first demand should be
to open up access to our markets to African people who want to trade with
us and export to us.
I do not
know how many people have read the manifesto of Make Poverty History, but
I was astonished to find that it contains no call to open up access to the
markets of the EU or other developed countries. It rightly calls for an
end to export subsidies, which can be damaging in African markets, but
rather than attacking the protectionism of western markets, it calls for
the right of African countries to protect their own agriculture and
farmers.
Obviously, those countries are free to take their own decisions, but I
believe that there is hardly anything less designed to be helpful to the
elimination of poverty in developing countries than raising the price of
food for poor people. If those countries must indulge in protection, let
it be on cosmetics and Cadillacs, rather than on anything that makes their
food more expensive; but, anyway, our aim should be to open up our markets
to Africa's goods.
Making
Poverty History's second aim, with which I entirely concur, is to drop the
debt. I am proud to have belonged to a Government who wrote off all aid
debt to African countries—although we did not make a song and dance about
it at the time—thus leaving only Government guaranteed trade and
multilateral debt to be dealt with.
Some
free-marketeers, who would agree with me in other ways, are suspicious of
debt relief. They are mistaken. It is what happens in free markets. If we
lend to someone for a project that fails to make a profit and a return,
the debt has to be written off. If we lend to someone who, through
unwisdom or otherwise, is unable to pay back the loan, we have to write it
off. The only reason why there is a problem about debt relief for Africa
is that the debts are not free-market debts made freely between someone
investing in those countries or lending to those people, but debts that
have been guaranteed by Governments or Government agencies.
Some
people say that writing off debts will reward corrupt dictators and
plutocrats, but let us remember that it is not the corrupt dictators and
plutocrats who will pay back those debts, if we insist on their repayment,
but the poor peasants and the impoverished people who live in the
townships of Africa. Whoever's fault it was that those bad loans were
made, it was not the fault of poor people in Africa, and they should not
be required to repay their loans. So I entirely endorse the objective of
writing off debts that cannot be repaid, but we should not start again
down the path of Government-guaranteed debts and Government-channelled
lending to those countries. We should encourage private investment and
lending wherever possible because that results not only in the better
targeting of investment, but in better managed investment and better
monitored investment. That brings me to aid.
Where
famine, destitution, draught or disaster exists, we have a straightforward
humanitarian, Christian obligation to aid those people. There is a good
case, too, for giving aid to finance hospitals, schools and the training
of teachers, nurses and doctors—rather than the reverse: their training
our teachers, nurses and doctors—especially if that aid is delivered
directly to the project and audited transparently. But in all my
experience, aid that was designed to finance projects of an industrial
nature to contribute to development was unnecessary. There was no project
that I ever saw that would not have occurred in the absence of subsidies.
In the
UK, we have abandoned our belief that we can make ourselves richer by
Government subsidising business, picking winners and selecting industries,
so why are we so patronising towards Africa as to think that Africans need
those outdated methods of industrial development to prosper? They do not.
Our role should be to remove the obstacles to their trading in our
markets, to lift the burden of debt that hampers them and to help with
their humanitarian needs. If we do that, I have faith and confidence that,
given good governance, the people of Africa will move from poverty to
prosperity; but it will be they who lift the burden of poverty, not eight
men in Gleneagles.
Hugh
Bayley (City of York) (Lab):
I congratulate the right hon. Member for Hitchin and Harpenden (Mr.
Lilley) on a thoughtful and in some ways provocative speech, but I agree
with the provocation; it needs to be said that the private sector has a
vital role in the development of Africa. If we protect African countries
from private investment or the private sector, we will impoverish them.
I
congratulate the Government on making Africa a priority for the G8 and EU
presidencies; on giving Africans a voice in developing the agenda that
they take to the G8 since more than half the members of the Commission for
Africa Africans; and on setting their sights high in the goals that they
seek. In the Chamber, we inevitably talk about theoretical constructs,
such as aid, trade and debt, but they are means to an end: empowering
human beings to live decent lives.
From what
has already happened in the preparations for the G8, we know what the
summit will deliver. Although it will not achieve the millennium
development goals in Africa, it will lift hundreds of thousands of people
out of poverty. It will get many, many more children into school, and
provide clean water supplies in many villages and towns that would not
have obtained them otherwise. The Gleneagles summit will agree the debt
write-off that has been mapped out by the G7 Finance Ministers. It will
endorse the EU agreement on a timetable for reaching 0.7 per cent. of
gross national income for development assistance.
Those
decisions would not have been made had it not been for the leadership that
our Government have given internationally to prioritise Africa. We shall
see real progress on debt and aid at Gleneagles. More will be needed, and
I shall be speaking at one of the rallies in Edinburgh demanding more, as
will many other people. But there will be insufficient progress at the G8
on trade, so we must see Gleneagles not as a high watermark but as a
staging post. We must use the time between now and the World Trade
Organisation ministerial meeting in December to create a political basis
internationally for agreement at the WTO.
The main
stumbling blocks to a trade agreement are the agricultural subsidies in
developed countries, so we in the Chamber should turn our attention from
the G8 to the UK presidency of the EU, which starts tomorrow, and talk
about what our priorities for our six-month presidency will be. We take
over the presidency at a difficult time. The EU is suffering growth pains
from enlargement. The European constitution has been rejected by France
and the Netherlands in referendums. There is deadlock on the EU budget and
the UK rebate. There is high unemployment in many EU member states and a
need for economic reform to meet the challenges from emerging economies,
but no consensus in the EU on how to deal with those problems.
The
problems of the budget, the UK rebate and CAP reform will not go away. The
CAP is a barrier to progress at the WTO, and many Members on both sides of
the House have said during the debate that trade reform can deliver more
towards lifting people out of poverty than more help through aid or debt
write-offs.
The UK
rebate was negotiated by Margaret Thatcher because it was recognised that
the CAP imposes an unjustifiably large burden on the UK. I hope that we
can build a cross-party consensus in the UK that if we can get CAP reform,
the UK's net contribution to the EU will come down as the cost of the CAP
comes down, so the rebate can come down, too. If we can get consensus in
the UK on opening up debate about the rebate and the way in which we could
allow ourselves to reduce it, we should be able to make progress on CAP
reform.
I would
like to suggest six planks for the reform of the CAP that our Government
could take forward during their presidency. First, we should of course
avoid undermining the current reforms such as the decoupling process and
the proposals on ending EU export subsidies. The progress that has been
made in those fields must be consolidated.
Secondly,
the Government should consider relaunching a proposal that the Germans
made several years ago to devolve rural policy and spending decisions to
member states—I think that the EU jargon is "nationalisation". In other
words, the subsidy rules would be agreed at EU level, but the subsidies
themselves would be paid from the national budgets in all the 15 original
EU member states. I have often wondered why France needs to pay its
farmers twice as much in aid as it gives in aid to people in developing
countries. If we adopted the nationalisation approach on agricultural
subsidies, we would create an incentive for all the EU 15 to reduce
subsidies overall.
Thirdly,
we need to propose a new EU development mechanism to replace the CAP and
structural funds, which would permit budget transfers to be made from
richer to poorer states without tying those transfers only to agriculture.
We have heard many times that the CAP absorbs 40 per cent. of the EU
budget, yet agriculture represents a tiny percentage—less than 5 per
cent.—of the EU economy. Such a mechanism would give receiving states
greater freedom to set their own development priorities and decide how
money should be spent.
Fourthly,
we need to set out a realistic timetable for reform. We could introduce
the new regime—the end of CAP and the structural funds, and the
introduction of the EU development mechanism—in 2010. We could offer to
introduce it on the basis of the existing share of contributions as long
as we also had an agreement on a transitional period in which we would
move from the current mix of contributions to a rational method of burden
sharing based on the gross national income per capita of each member
state.
Fifthly,
as the EU cuts agricultural subsidies, we should refocus those resources
on external aid. We could support accession states such as Romania,
Bulgaria and Turkey so that they can make the reforms necessary to allow
them to join the EU at a future date. The resources could be used to
stabilise the "near abroad"—to use the European jargon—of the middle east
and north Africa. They could also be used to address the problems of
global poverty, especially in Africa.
Sixthly—I
stress this point—we need to retain EU control of the subsidy rules at
Commission and Parliament level because that would be the only way in
which we could reassure the WTO that a downward path of agricultural
subsidies would be achieved.
I welcome
the strong cross-party agreement that we have seen during the debate.
However, if we are really serious about making a difference for the
poorest of the poor in Africa, we must reach cross-party consensus on
reform of the CAP and on the UK rebate from the EU. We will not get CAP
reform unless we move on the rebate.
We need
to recognise that negotiating change in the EU budget will require give
and take. At the end of the process, the UK will remain a net contributor
because we are one of the richest countries, not least because of the
economic success of the Labour Government. The contribution that we and
other rich member states, such as Germany, France and Italy, make should
be structured on a rational basis, relating to gross national income per
capita in each country, and not on the anarchic basis of the CAP.
Mr.
Laurence Robertson (Tewkesbury) (Con):
I pay tribute to the hon. Member for Foyle (Mark Durkan), who made an
outstanding speech. It is a privilege to work with him in my day job, as
it were, as a shadow Minister for Northern Ireland. I look forward to
working with him in the House for many years.
I welcome
the debate and the high profile that international development has these
days. I am happy to pay tribute to the Secretary of State, the Prime
Minister and the Chancellor of the Exchequer for working hard towards the
goals that we all share, not least on the Conservative Front Bench. I join
those who paid tribute to my hon. Friend the Member for Sutton Coldfield
(Mr. Mitchell), who made an outstanding speech.
I want to
touch on three issues. There is a campaign with the slogan "trade not
aid", but we need both trade and aid. We need to improve the trade
prospects of third world countries. Having visited a number of them—twice
to Ethiopia, once to Rwanda and once to Kenya—I have seen the depths of
poverty there. To suggest—although no hon. Member has—that those countries
can leap forward as quickly as they need to do simply because we remove
tariff barriers or subsidies is fantasy. When one walks through streets
and sees people huddled together, banging pieces of tin with bricks to
make something to sell, one realises that they have a long way to go
before they can compete in the markets that should rightly be open to
them. I am not saying that we should not remove trade barriers or
subsidies, because we certainly should, but we also need to do much more
to help those countries progress.
On a
recent visit to Ethiopia, I visited a hospital where the surgeon was an
80-year-old lady who was doing a fantastic job, but in the countryside I
saw the true meaning of a hospital queue, with people physically sitting
outside the hospital. We saw that people live in a space no bigger than
the Table in the Chamber, and it has to accommodate 10 or 12 people or
families and their animals. We also saw girls who spend their entire lives
walking to collect water. That made us realise how much we need to do to
enable those countries to compete. We must remember that we have to
provide development aid in particular to them, as well as humanitarian
aid, which is provided in response to disasters. As well as removing trade
barriers, we need to do our utmost to persuade the supermarkets, which
have enormous power, to buy more goods from the third world and to have
them correctly labelled so that consumers can choose to contribute to the
development of third world countries in that way.
Although
it is important to give money to good Governments, we have to remember
that people who live in countries that are corrupt or at war are probably
in greater need than those who live in countries without those problems.
It is more difficult to deliver aid in those circumstances, but it is even
more important to do so and to find a way to do so. That is best done
through non-governmental organisations. I pay tribute to the aid workers
on the ground. I have seen the jobs that they do. They risk their lives,
are away from their families and live in appalling conditions to save the
lives of the people in those countries. I want to place on the record my
appreciation for their work. It is important to recognise the value of
their enthusiasm.
The hon.
Member for Glasgow, North (Ann McKechin) spoke earlier about our visit to
Rwanda, where we walked through the bones and skulls of people who had
been massacred in the genocide. Strangely enough, what made me feel worse
was our visit to the trials, where we saw quite ordinary-looking people
who had hacked others to death. We wondered whether the situation could
ever be sorted out, or whether we were just wasting our time. Gradually,
however, we realised that the fact that those ordinary-looking people had
done that kind of thing was a reason to help. That is also what motivates
the people who work on the ground in those countries.
I think
that I shall be the lone voice speaking in support of Ethiopia today. We
have heard a number of criticisms of the Ethiopian Government, and I share
the concerns about the situation that led to 20 people being killed there,
and about the people who are being held without charge for demonstrating.
I shall certainly do my little bit to persuade the Government there to
bring about a speedy conclusion to that situation. I must point out,
however, that only about 14 years ago, Ethiopia was in the grip of a
Marxist Government. Recent elections there were observed by 300
international observers, there has been an economic growth rate of about 5
per cent., and more and more children go to school these days. The
Ethiopian Government have also initiated a resettlement programme.
Although quite crude, it is trying to bring people from the non-fertile
areas, which are desperately poor, into areas in which they might be able
to grow and have access to food.
The
Ethiopian Government are doing everything that they can. I understand the
Secretary of State's decision to suspend the increase in aid to Ethiopia—I
have discussed the matter with him—but I would ask him to keep in close
touch with the Ethiopian Prime Minister. I know from our discussions that
he will. As I said earlier, the poorer a country is, the more help it
needs. We have to accept that this is Africa, for goodness' sake, and we
cannot judge Africa by our own standards. We have our own problems with
electoral systems in this country, and if we are going to say that anyone
who does not have a perfect Government and a perfect country cannot have
aid, I suggest that we are missing the point.
I know
that the Secretary of State will keep a close watch on what is happening
in Ethiopia, with a view to continuing to increase the aid. I commend the
Government for having done so in the past, and I hope that we shall be
able to resume providing Ethiopia with the help that it needs. It is a
desperately poor country, and it really needs our help. The blind children
and the crippled children on the streets are the ones who need help, not
the Ethiopian Government. I urge the House to have some tolerance for what
is going on in Ethiopia and to recognise the real progress that it has
made.
John
Robertson (Glasgow, North-West) (Lab):
May I start by congratulating the hon. Member for Foyle (Mark Durkan) on
one of the best maiden speeches that I have heard? I look forward to
hearing more from him in the future. I also want to congratulate my right
hon. Friend the Secretary of State on one of the best Front-Bench speeches
that I have heard in the nearly five years that I have been here.
Much
attention has understandably focused on the steps that the leaders of the
G8 can take when they meet at Gleneagles this weekend. Today, however, I
want briefly to mention an issue that will be largely unaffected by the
decisions taken at the summit, but which I hope will not be forgotten.
Poverty is not a problem that we associate with one of Africa's richest
countries, and certainly not with one of its oil-rich regions. Up to 2
million barrels of oil a day are pumped from the Niger delta's swamps.
They provide Nigeria with 80 per cent. of its revenues and 98 per cent. of
its exports. However, most ordinary Nigerians do not see the benefit of
this wealth. Seven out of 10 Nigerians live on less than $1 a day. The
disparity is particularly pronounced in the Niger delta, where much of the
wealth comes from, and I shall explain why that is the case and what can
be done.
Oil is a
mixed blessing. It provides great wealth, but it has troubling
consequences. In the Gulf states, for example, it provides regimes with so
much money that they do not have to levy significant taxes on the
population. Great, one might think, but it means that leaders can operate
without representative government, so they do not pay any attention to the
needs and wishes of their people. In the Niger delta, since the 1970s,
revenues amounting to hundreds of billions of dollars have been grabbed by
central Government and local politicians, and have been largely wasted.
Since President Obasanjo came to power in 1999, the country has
experienced greater stability. He took steps to rein in the politicised
army, but the situation remains fragile. My right hon. Friend the
Secretary of State announced that the Paris club had reached agreement on
Nigeria's debt, which is welcome news. Like my hon. Friend the Member for
Glasgow, North (Ann McKechin), I would be grateful to know how much debt
relief will be provided.
The
Nigerian Government need to do much more to provide a stable basis for the
delta. They must guarantee that the 2007 elections will be free and fair;
otherwise no amount of work by non-governmental organisations or foreign
Governments will bring peace and prosperity to the region. There will be
primary elections next year, but the country has the capacity to explode
into civil war. The 2006 primaries will draw attention to local areas such
as the Niger delta, where there is extreme violence. Ethnic and religious
strife threatens to overwhelm any future development. Rival militias in
the delta have cost hundreds of lives since 2003 and caused tens of
thousands of people to flee their homes. What chance is there for people
to escape poverty when they do not even have secure shelter? Indeed, the
militias are exploiting poverty. One particularly sinister leader, Mujahid
Dobuko-Asari, is posing as a champion of the oppressed. He demands a
greater part of the oil profits for his Ijaw tribe, but in practice he
causes mayhem. According to Human Rights Watch, the police do not have the
firepower to take on the militia, so Mr. Asari takes in the jobless
youngsters of the delta, obtains weapons which are more sophisticated than
those carried by the police, and talks of an "armed struggle".
Militias
and their fighters have made attacks on the oil industry, and many have
dubious roles as private security contractors. With the state unable to
guarantee security, what are the oil companies to do? Should they make
unorthodox payments to those so-called contractors, or should they wait
for their production to be stopped by violence? The people of the Niger
delta need security and a stronger state if development is to progress. As
well as working on aid and debt, the British Government and others must
work with the Nigerian Government to ensure that the rule of law returns
to the Niger delta. If the rule of law is restored, there is a chance that
the billions of dollars worth of wealth created in the Niger delta will
spread to the rest of Nigeria, so that the 70 per cent. of the population
who live on less than $1 a day can perhaps earn more money.
Earlier
this year, our former colleague Bill Tynan was instrumental in setting up
the all-party parliamentary group on the Niger Delta. Following Bill's
retirement, I have taken over the group's chairmanship. I pay tribute to
Bill's dedication in setting up the group, and I am grateful for his
advice on the subject. In fact, he still advises me and has done so this
week, even though he is on holiday in Spain. The Niger delta group is
making good progress. On 16 June, we held our annual general meeting,
which was attended by representatives from Shell, communities in the
delta, and a researcher who has been investigating the region's problems
and reported to the group at first hand. In the past few weeks more than
30 MPs have joined the group, and Lord Jenkin, who is a vice-chair, is
taking up the baton in the other place.
In a few
weeks I shall be leading a delegation to the delta in order to assess the
situation on the ground. We will meet representatives of the Government
and the oil companies, as well as many ordinary people who live in the
area. In advance of the trip we will be in close touch with the Foreign
Office. I have already had a short discussion with my right hon. Friend
the Secretary of State for International Development, and I know that he
is looking forward to me briefing him on my return from the delta. I look
forward to doing so.
I know
that other Members want to speak and raise a range of important issues
relating to poverty throughout Africa, so I shall not detain the House any
longer than necessary. A Labour Member does not usually have the
opportunity to slow up Opposition Members who want to speak, but in this
case I will give up some of my time to allow them to speak on a subject on
which there is cross-party agreement.
With
Nigeria's great potential, including its wealth and resources, it is a
natural candidate to leave the way in the development of Africa. I have
outlined a few of the serious challenges that stand in the way. As the
Minister for Trade and Investment said, if Nigeria does not meet its
millennium development goals, Africa cannot meet them. That is why we must
work with the people of Nigeria. I urge my right hon. Friend to do
everything he can, and I know he will, to help make the Niger delta
prosperous and to expand its wealth to the rest of Nigeria and, hopefully,
point the way in democracy for the rest of Africa.
John
Bercow (Buckingham) (Con):
It is a privilege to follow the hon. Member for Glasgow, North-West (John
Robertson), who as ever spoke with sincerity, experience and knowledge.
Moreover, I endorse wholeheartedly the tribute that he and others have
paid to the hon. Member for Foyle (Mark Durkan), who delivered a moving
and memorable maiden speech of which he should be justly proud.
Let us be
clear that aid, trade and debt relief are necessary but not sufficient
conditions of African development. The Secretary of State knows the high
esteem in which I hold him. It was a privilege to shadow him, and I can
tell him that the Bierton combined school, to whose Make Poverty History
assembly I had the privilege of speaking on Monday, made it clear that it
wanted its support for the agenda to be taken forward at Gleneagles.
There is
a fundamental weakness in the trinity of aid, trade and debt relief unless
there are additions to it—that is, that that invaluable package does not
stop genocide. Genocide is the source of poverty, and stopping genocide
requires the establishment or re-establishment of security. In the time
available I shall focus my remarks specifically and narrowly on Darfur,
western Sudan, which I had the privilege and also the harrowing experience
of visiting twice in the past 12 months. In reflecting upon the tragedy
and the savagery there, let us remind ourselves of the legal position.
Deprivation of access to food and medicine is a crime against humanity
under article 2(b) of the Rome statute of the International Criminal
Court. Deliberately inflicting conditions of life calculated to destroy a
group in whole or in part is a form of genocide under article 2(c) of the
United Nations genocide convention. My contention is that the cocktail of
barbarity that has been unleashed and continues to be visited upon the
people of Darfur is almost certainly an act of genocide. There has been
and continues to be prolonged suffering in the region.
Look at
the facts. Consult the World Food Programme. The position is clear. Over 3
million people are dependent on food aid. Already, no fewer than 3,200
villages have been deliberately burned. It is estimated that some 2
million people have been internally displaced, and we should not forget
that no fewer than 200,000 people have fled in terror from the Government
and from the Arab militias over the border into Chad. That is the
continuing reality of the situation in Darfur, although the issue is not
nearly as prominent in the news media as it was only a few months ago.
It
saddens and horrifies me when I hear it said that there is "a semblance of
calm" or "relative normality", or that "the situation has stabilised". I
do not doubt the Secretary of State's sincere and determined intention to
do what he can to tackle the situation, but there is no real calm at all.
Look at what has happened. Much of the bombing has already taken place,
and if the Antonovs are raining down bombs rather less frequently than
they were, it is because much of the job has been done, so the necessity
for continued and remorseless aggression from the air no longer exists.
The bulk of the ethnic cleansing has already taken place.
Above
all, as we pontificate on the future of Africa, we should listen to the
verdict of the UN's under-secretary for humanitarian affairs, Jan Egelund,
who is the head honcho in the field. On 21 June, which is only nine days
ago, he said:
"we have
regressed. More and more women are being attacked, younger and yet younger
children are victims of these atrocities . . . It is a vicious racial
issue."
Although
I applaud the contributions from the Secretary of State and my hon. Friend
the Member for Sutton Coldfield (Mr. Mitchell), it is necessary to
puncture the complacency of the debate to highlight the difference between
our aspirations for the future and our conduct of the present.
In truth,
the international community is not doing the maximum that could be done.
The Secretary of State is responsible for humanitarian assistance, and he
is brilliant at it. He is the best Secretary of State for International
Development since the right hon. Member for Birmingham, Ladywood (Clare
Short), who, in her different way, exemplified the values that must be
progressed if we are to secure advances in Africa. The Secretary of State
is brilliant at his job, but we need joined-up government here and within
the multilateral institutions of the European Union and, in particular, of
the UN. The fact is—I know that this is sad and brutal, and it is no doubt
undiplomatic to say it—that the international community does not care
enough about the continued and deliberate slaughter of tens of thousands
of black Africans in Darfur, for if it did, it would not sit on its hands.
So far,
we have seen a half-hearted intervention to which there are three
significant downsides. First, the straightforward moral reality is that
the international community has abdicated and continues to shirk its
responsibility to the suffering citizens of Darfur. Secondly, there are
the financial implications. Whoever else we seek to deceive, let us not
deceive ourselves—the longer we wait and the less we do, the greater the
burden and the bigger the cost when the day of reckoning comes. We do not
have to consult the crystal ball, because we can look in the book of the
historical experience and tragedy of Rwanda, where the eventual cost of
reconstruction was $4.5 billion because the international community
pitifully and pathetically neglected the situation. I greatly admired the
Prime Minister for saying to the 2001 Labour party conference that if ever
there were a comparable situation again, Britain and the international
community would have a moral duty to act. There is and we have.
Thirdly,
many tributes have been paid to the African Union. There are some 3,320
personnel in Darfur, of whom, on the latest reckoning, about 2,055 are
troops on the ground. Even if the force increases to 7,700 soldiers, as
the Secretary of State has said today and articulated at yesterday's
International Development questions, the likelihood is that their remit
will simply be to protect people in the camps for internally displaced
persons. What that means is that each soldier will be responsible for the
protection of no fewer than 305 people.
This is a
slow-burn, grisly, despicable and, from the vantage point of the
international community, shameful genocide that we are allowing to be
perpetrated on our watch. What we need to do instead is to seek
ceaselessly until we obtain a chapter VII United Nations peace enforcement
mandate. It is no good talking about peacekeeping. There is no peace
settlement—there is a temporary and fragile ceasefire honoured more often
in the breach than in the observance. We probably need a force of 25,000
people to go to Darfur to protect civilians and to offer a better prospect
of peace and security, which is the indispensable precondition of the
recovery of the people and the beginning of the fight against poverty in
western Sudan.
The
people of Darfur have suffered too much for too long with too little done
about it. I am ashamed of that, and I hope that other right hon. and hon.
Members are ashamed of it. I appeal to the Secretary of State to use his
good offices to pressurise the Foreign Office, to work together, and to
use the moral force that still exists, admittedly in diminished form, with
the Prime Minister, to argue for a robust, concerted and effective
approach at multilateral level. That is what is needed; nothing less will
do.
Mr.
David Anderson (Blaydon) (Lab):
I thank the hon. Member for Buckingham (John Bercow) for giving me such an
easy act to follow—I don't think.
This
House has a proud history of fighting for social and economic justice, and
today we have the chance to write another chapter in that history. We must
support the Make Poverty History campaign for trade justice, full debt
cancellation and more and better aid. As the hon. Member for Banbury (Tony
Baldry) said, if we can do it on the basis of consensus, then so much the
better. It is a disgrace that in 2005 the world's poorest countries are
still forced to pay millions of pounds a year to the rich world in debt
repayments. It is a further disgrace that rich countries agreed to give
0.7 per cent. of gross domestic product as long ago as 1970, yet so far
only five countries have managed to reach that target. It is a disgrace
that sadly our Government and our country are yet not one of them. It is
an injustice that the poorest 49 countries on this planet make up 10 per
cent. of the world's population but their share of international trade is
under 0.5 per cent.
Nearly
500 trade unions, campaign organisations, development agencies and faith
groups in the United Kingdom have come together in an unprecedented
coalition to say to us and to our Government that it is time to bring
about progress on trade, aid and debt. The people are not just with us on
this—they are ahead of us.
This year
is a unique opportunity. Our Government have the presidency of the G8 and
the EU. It is only 10 years until the world is meant to meet the
millennium development goals. Poverty is supposed to be halved by 2015,
yet it is 20 long years since the world called for change at Live Aid.
Today, we must persuade the world to choose the right policies on trade,
aid and debt. We really do have a chance, if we choose, to make poverty
history.
Late last
year, I had the privilege of leading a delegation of public service
workers to a conference in Johannesburg organised by my trade union,
Unison, where 70 delegates from 10 southern African countries met to plan
their response to the HIV/AIDS pandemic that is sweeping sub-Saharan
Africa. The whole conference was paid for by Unison. It was money well
spent on behalf of ordinary men and women—people who, as the hon. Member
for Foyle (Mark Durkan) said, had quite likely been killing each other
previously, but had decided, in southern Africa as in Northern Ireland,
that the only way to achieve genuine reconciliation is to work together.
Workers
came from Angola, Zimbabwe, Malawi, Mauritius, Botswana, Namibia, Zambia,
and South Africa. They worked in different public services, under
different political regimes, and faced different cultural systems. Three
things united them, however. They all wanted to deliver world-class public
services for their people. They all wanted to develop a role for working
people and their organisations to beat the pandemic of HIV/AIDS. Most
crucially, they realised that the key driver of the pandemic is poverty.
It is a poverty that does not cause AIDS but helps to spread it. It is a
poverty that makes people live in houses unfit for animals. It denies
human beings the right to good, clean water. It prevents men, women and
children from being properly educated. It breeds on ignorance and allows
cultural exploitation, especially of women and young girls. Above all, it
is a poverty that does not have to exist, which is what we should be
arguing.
We live
in a world that spends more on obesity, erectile dysfunction and pet
medicines than on the so-called neglected diseases of Africa. We live in a
world in which the most powerful nation tells the weakest ones that the
real cure for AIDS is abstention. What an attitude—when all else has
fallen around one, even the comfort of the person one loves would be
denied by those of us in the west who know better. We also live in a world
in which more money is spent on protecting the monopoly of drug
corporations than on alleviating the needs of sick and dying children.
That must be wrong.
There is
a shift in attitude and in world opinion. Employers in southern Africa
have realised that HIV/AIDS is their business as well as the workers'
business. If workers are sick, dying or off work because they are burying
their relatives, they are not producing the goods for their employers.
That might be sustained for a while, but not when millions are sick and
dying, and definitely not when, as in the case of Africa, more than 70 per
cent. of those with HIV/AIDS are in the work force.
For
example, mining companies have come to realise that it is ridiculous to
retrain, employ and recruit people and then see them fall away from the
work force. They are therefore implementing programmes that help people to
take time away from work. They are introducing sex education lessons. It
is sad that in much of southern Africa, public services are not reflecting
the work that private companies are doing—that comes from someone who does
not often sing the praises of private services over public ones.
The
resolution of the situation is a win-win for all of us. It is not just a
way for us to be do-gooders and spread largesse. If we do not attack
poverty, its causes and its symptoms, we all become weaker in every way.
That is why the events of this coming period are so important.
Most of
us in the Chamber probably came into politics to change the world. Before
too long, we realised that we had problems changing our socks. Now is our
chance—our generation's chance. Many of us are diametrically opposed to
other parties in this place, and sometimes even to our own. Many of us
have concerns about our relationships with various nations on this issue.
My advice is simple. For this period, let us put aside our differences and
unite with each other. Let us follow the lead that the people of our
country and the world are giving us. Let us say enough is enough. Let us
accept our responsibility. Let us acknowledge that poverty is not
inevitable. Let us believe that poverty is a human creation that humans
can change. Let us put our money where the starving mouths of the world
are. Let us make a difference. For once, let us make our kids proud of us.
Let us make poverty history, and let us do it now.
James
Duddridge (Rochford and Southend, East) (Con):
If the good people of Rochford and Southend, East had not elected me to
this place, I would be returning to Africa. I want to talk a little about
my experiences of business in Africa, because I believe that business and
free trade are more likely to alleviate poverty than any other activity.
In the
early 1990s, I was working in the City of London, and I told my employers
at my annual appraisal that I was bored. They said, "Well, why don't you
take this job in Swaziland?" I did not really know the continent, and
certainly did not know where Swaziland was, but I took up that
opportunity. Initially, I felt guilty sat behind a desk, because in my
mind, at that time, compassionate people in Africa were aid workers, who
dug ditches and, in many ways, lived in poverty themselves. Now, however,
I know that Africa needs business men and bankers, specialists, financial
markets and advisers. A colleague of mine who went out to Africa a few
years before me set up a local stock exchange in Botswana, and went on to
generate an awful lot of wealth for that country.
As a
banker I was called many things, and I am sure that I shall be called
worse things as a politician—but at the bank I saw that although many
people look on bankers in a negative way, we lubricated the economy,
allowing speedier development and, ultimately, less poverty. I went on to
work in the Ivory Coast for a Belgian bank, and in Botswana for a British
bank. Indeed, I met my wife in Swaziland.
In my
experience, we need free trade and free elections—in that order. However,
the term "fair trade" concerns me. It highlights inequalities in trade,
and it is right to do so, but Governments should not decide what is fair,
markets should—and the African marketplace is no different from any other.
I have a
number of clients involved with the sugar industry, and I have visited
sugar factories in communities across Swaziland and Uganda. The factories
tend to be in remote locations; the lucky ones get jobs there, but there
is certainly a lot of poverty, particularly with seasonal workers. It
makes me feel sick to think of the subsidies that the first world gives
out within the sugar industry. It is duplicitous to take with one hand and
give with the other, and then ask for praise for doing that. The sooner we
abandon the common agricultural policy and have genuinely free trade among
nation states, the better.
I also
want to mention some concerns about some of the charitable works carried
out for Africa's benefit in the United Kingdom. All too often we paint
Africa in the worst possible light, to solicit donations and activity. I
am concerned that events such as Live8 and the events that preceded it
pigeonhole Africa and Africans. The countries in which I have lived and
worked have been poor, but there has been enormous spirit there—in many
ways a greater spirit than we sometimes see in the United Kingdom. There
is also more entrepreneurship, with people selling produce and so on, and
a positive spirit. We need to reflect that positive view of Africa, too.
Africa is
also rich in resources, such as oil, diamonds and fertile land in places
such as Zimbabwe. It used to be said that Zimbabwe could feed the African
nation, yet look where we are now.
I also
want to comment on the HIV/AIDS pandemic–not on the social side of the
problem but on the economic development element. In Botswana I managed 750
staff, one third of whom either had full-blown AIDS or were HIV positive.
As well as creating a medical problem and a social problem for the
families, that has an enormous impact on business in the country, with
massive numbers of people being employed to cover for those who are too
sick, when the drugs are not working. That in turn has a knock-on effect
on poverty within a country.
The
intellectual capital of the nation is dying prematurely. One third of the
staff who worked for me were affected, but among the graduates coming out
of the university the proportion was much higher—so literally, the future
of the nation was dying.
We would
all have a problem imagining what would happen if we were diagnosed with a
life-threatening disease, but imagine one third of all people in this
country being diagnosed with a life-threatening disease. Imagine the
impact that that has on the psychology of the whole nation.
I want to
be brief, so I shall draw my comments to a close, and I want to end on a
positive note. I believe that Africa does not have to deteriorate. The
continent is not doomed to failure. Friends and colleagues with whom I
have worked across Africa are strong and resourceful people, in what can
often be a land of plenty. I believe that as politicians, we need to help
them establish free trade and free elections—and the rest will follow.
Ms
Celia Barlow (Hove) (Lab):
We have come a long way since the days when our nation's aid policy was
little more than a tool for big business assisting market penetration and
furthering the reaches of our commerce, but hastening the decline of
African nations into further poverty and helplessness. Such short-termism
led the 1980s to be called the lost decade by those working for Africa's
development. I am glad that this Government have given much time to
correcting such injustices since coming to power in 1997.
Thanks to
our first years in power, policies that led to events such as the Pergau
dam affair have been legislated against. That has increased the
effectiveness and benefits of our assistance to poor countries. Today we
stand at the cusp of another landmark in our effort to support the people
of Africa. The radical proposals to offer debt relief, increased spending
on aid and enhanced access to the world's trading systems for poor
countries, as outlined to the House in recent days by the Chancellor and
the Secretary of State for International Development, have my wholehearted
support.
Before I
describe my concerns and ambitions with regard to Africa policy, I want to
emphasise just how significant this country's contribution to
international development has been in recent years. As my hon. Friend the
Member for Foyle (Mark Durkan) said in his eloquent maiden speech, it will
be a fine achievement when our spending on aid reaches the UN target
figure of 0.7 per cent. of GNP, but we shall then join a select group of
only five nations.
Our
policy directives that cut conditionality, encourage spending on health
and education and eradicate the hypocrisy of tied aid have placed Britain
at the forefront of development practice, and should be a source of great
pride to the people of our country. However, as the campaign to make
poverty history reaches its climax, having successfully mobilised a whole
nation, we must stress that what will be achieved at this year's great
conferences will be but one milestone on an extremely long road.
Significant though it is and painstaking though the work involved has
been, we must all prepare ourselves and our constituents for the fact that
many more victories will need to be won before the people of Africa unlock
the potential of their great continent. History may well recall this year
as the turning point in Africa's renaissance, but it is our job, in the
here and now, to look forward and see just how our assistance may be put
to best use.
First, I
want to raise an issue involving the two leading African institutions, the
African Union and NEPAD, the New Partnership for Africa's Development. The
Africa Commission's report repeatedly stresses the importance of those
institutions as arbiters of aid and good governance for the region. I
wholeheartedly support that sentiment, but I would like the possibility of
strengthening and reforming those institutions to be investigated, so that
they could be better equipped for the challenges ahead.
It is
with regret that I point out the failure of those institutions to deal
adequately with the situations that they faced in Sierra Leone, the Ivory
Coast and Sudan. On each occasion, intervention by northern powers was
eventually needed, and often occurred regrettably late owing to the
failure of the African Union to deal decisively with what was happening.
Today we mourn the suffering of ordinary Zimbabwean people at the hands of
their country's pernicious dictator, a situation on which the African
Union seems unable or unwilling to act. If the African Union is fully to
earn the trust of us donors, it must demonstrate time and again to the
people whom it serves that it is willing to fight for social justice and
good governance.
A lesson
that we Europeans have learned recently is that transcontinental union
must fully serve the needs of every citizen, not just its political elite,
if the trust of citizens is to be bestowed on it. We should not shy from a
reform agenda in our Africa policies. That would be perfectly in keeping
with the philosophy of a Government who have offered investment in return
for reform in many domestic policies since coming to power.
There are
many links in the chain leading from Government assistance to application
in the field. Often the weakest link is the last, where aid money is
actually spent and distributed among the grass roots. There are several
reasons for that, one of which is the difficulty in finding lots of field
workers with the capacity and skills required to do such a difficult job
well. Another is the challenge of working in communities that often lack
the infrastructure and representative leadership through which to work. We
must therefore focus much of our attention on ensuring that those
administering our aid budget in the field are fully trained and supported,
and on ensuring that the community structures and representation are in
place to make the link between aid worker and community seamless.
The
increasing role of non-governmental organisations has changed the nature
of aid in recent years. At their best, NGOs can form a bond with local
communities that would be impossible for national and multinational donors
to achieve, and they can offer an extremely efficient solution to
developmental challenges. But we must also accept that poor practice
exists, and now that we are increasing funding to Africa so dramatically,
public and media scrutiny of NGO activity will surely be heightened.
I want to
see an increase in the independent monitoring of all development work,
including NGO activity in Africa. The fact remains that many of the
communities in which aid work is carried out are poorly educated, poorly
connected and poorly represented. They are communities without a voice,
and as such they are rarely in a position to speak out when poor practice
occurs. Due to the competitive funding process, it is a rarity for
organisations to admit failure voluntarily, which is a shame, because the
developmental sector would benefit tremendously from greater sharing of
information and from the shared learning of experience.
It would
be a great sadness if the public were to become disheartened or cynical
about assistance to Africa. That is why we need to be honest about the
challenges of working there, to be honest about the time that it will take
to achieve success, and to do all that we can to promote transparency in
the aid process—from top to bottom. For the first time in a generation,
there is real cause for optimism among those of us who care about Africa's
future and its people, cultures and ecology. If we fail in our endeavours
this year, the opportunity could well be lost for yet another generation.
We cannot let this happen. It would be unforgivable.
Mr.
Jeremy Hunt (South-West Surrey) (Con):
I have listened to this afternoon's debate with great interest. I agree
with the hon. Member for Blaydon (Mr. Anderson) that we should not be
ashamed if there is consensus on this issue. If we really are going to
make poverty history, we need to combine a concern for poverty with an
understanding of wealth creation. We need practical compassion and
economic realism.
When one
first sees poverty in Africa, one changes. I first experienced it just 18
months ago, although I should point out that I have much less knowledge of
this issue than does my hon. Friend the Member for Rochford and Southend,
East (James Duddridge). Like many other people, I have been sponsoring an
HIV-positive child. I went to visit her—she was then 14 years old—and
unfortunately, her situation was not unique: I have since discovered that
700,000 children are born with, or infected with, HIV every year. When she
was a baby, her father died from AIDS. When she was five, she saw her
mother die; she was not supposed to—she peeked through a crack in a
hospital door. After that, she was sent to an orphanage, which in those
days was more of a hospice; it had no money for antiretroviral medicines.
Shortly after she arrived there, her best friend died. She would have gone
the same way, too, but for the modern miracle of antiretroviral medicines.
Taking
such medicines enables sufferers to become practically fully healthy
again. They can go to school and to church; they can joke and participate
in games. When they get older they can marry; they can even have children
who are not HIV-positive. Fortunately, all the children in that particular
orphanage have the proper medication, but it is much more difficult to
address the problem in the slums of Africa. For the programmes to work, we
need regular testing. In addition, the people taking the medicines need
proper nutrition and they need medication for more regular ailments.
The
biggest slum in Africa is Kibera, where a quarter of Nairobi's population
live. Anyone going there is immediately struck by garbage piled up
everywhere, and there is only one toilet for every 200 people. I saw a
hungry child eating charcoal. Sometimes HIV-positive mothers work,
literally until they drop dead, because they have no other source of
income for their family. They often become prostitutes, thus spreading the
disease further.
I
wholeheartedly support the aims of the Make Poverty History campaign, but
there is a danger, in what is happening in Edinburgh, of over-simplifying
the problem and exaggerating the ease of solving it. Relieving debt,
increasing aid and removing trade barriers are part of the solution and
represent what we can do, but African Governments must also play their
part.
Twenty
years ago, the problem of poverty was global; now it is primarily an
African problem. We can learn from the countries that have been successful
in tackling poverty. Generally, they tackled corruption; they invested in
education; most of all, they invested in building up their economic base.
Wealth creation is vital for poverty reduction. We should reflect on
Japan, which fostered fierce competition between its domestic
manufacturers before gradually opening to the world. Hong Kong and China
are other examples: they harnessed foreign investment to give them a step
up in the expertise needed to run modern businesses and modern economies.
One final
ingredient is vital in the fight against poverty. It was identified by
Professor David Landes, the Harvard historian, in his book "The Wealth and
Poverty of Nations". He tried to examine why some countries were more
successful than others in dealing with poverty, but he found that although
it was possible to identify factors including climate, religion and
culture, none of them were defining characteristics. In the end, he said:
"History
tells us that the most successful cures for poverty come from within."
Countries
that look for salvation from their own efforts, do not blame others for
the problem nor look to others for the solution have generally been the
most successful. The disease of helplessness is every bit as damaging as
diseases such as AIDS, TB and malaria, because poverty can become a state
of mind, not just a state of body.
I
conclude by saying that the people will not forgive politicians if the G8
becomes a hollow public relations stunt rather than a real turning-point.
Too many countries have eradicated poverty for there to be any excuses
from the rich world or the poor. That is why we must match our compassion
with clarity, our idealism with realism and our anger with actions.
Annette Brooke (Mid-Dorset and North Poole) (LD):
As chairman and founder of the all-party parliamentary group on
microfinance, I should like to make a short contribution on the role of
microfinance in helping Africa to fight poverty.
I have
been fortunate enough to visit a number of microfinance projects in Ghana.
I visited villages in which trust banks of about 20 women were formed.
Each woman had her own simple business and working capital was supplied by
a group loan. Examples of the businesses included making or mending
clothes, making Shea butter or simply buying pots and pans to sell in the
local markets. The women supported one another with their enterprises and,
amazingly, loan repayments were almost 100 per cent. When I spoke to the
women and asked what benefited them most, the first reply was always, "I
am able to keep my child at school for longer." Training by local men and
women working in the offices of the lending institution also included
health education, so there was an add-on of education about HIV/AIDS and
an add-on of cleanliness and extra protection. I also saw individual
projects where loans of about £20 to £50 for the first cycle would start a
business, and ate in a restaurant where 42 people were employed, although
it had started with a tiny loan.
Microfinance institutions develop and go on to be able to accept savings
deposits, so that cash can be accumulated for all sorts of future uses or
investments. Insurance schemes can be developed, and credit products have
been developed for water, sanitation and housing.
As well
as NGOs, banks and the private sector play an increasing role in
supporting microfinance. It has been clearly demonstrated in many
countries that poor people can make use of financial services. A feature
of poverty is exclusion from those services, so inclusion is a positive
way forward.
Microfinance allows poor people to increase their sources of income. It is
an important tool in tackling extreme poverty, but it also helps to
support all the other millennium development goals. It is particularly
important for the empowerment of women, who gain more assets, acquire
choices and become able to make decisions. It offers a sustainable
approach to development, helping families to create businesses. Many
speakers in the debate have mentioned business and enterprise, and
microfinance works by giving people a hand up, rather than a handout.
Current
evidence suggests that about 70 million people are being served by
microfinance, and it is hoped the goal of 100 million by 2005 will be
reached.
The
Commission for Africa report recognises the significance of microfinance.
It states:
"Small
enterprises cannot grow in isolation and need access to a range of
financial and non-financial services to take advantage of market
opportunities."
Lack of
access to credit is recognised as a constraint—the number of people
without access to bank accounts can be as high as 90 per cent. in some
African countries. The report goes on to welcome the renewed focus on all
aspects of finance, and to stress how important it is for the successful
development of enterprises in Africa.
The
all-party group was very proud to have a sub-group nominated as the UK
national committee for the UN year of microcredit. This year, 2005, is the
special year for microfinance. The members of the sub-group—it really is a
sub-group plus—include people from the corporate and academic sectors, as
well as representatives from the media and many NGOs. We are very proud of
what we have achieved. We launched the year of microcredit at the London
stock exchange with Alice Jere, a microfinance client from Zambia.
A number
of speeches were made at that event, and Alice spoke alongside the
chairman of the stock exchange and the chief executive of a major company.
She said:
"My first
loan of £20 took me and my family out of poverty, starting with just 50
chicks. I'm now paying for my children's school fees, and have built up my
flock to 500 in just four years. I can't tell you how much this
microfinance has changed our lives."
The
all-party group's early-day motion has been signed by 56 hon. Members, and
I want to draw the attention of the Secretary of State to our most
important demand. We want the G8 summit to encourage the World Bank, the
IMF and the African Development Bank as well as African central banks and
finance ministries to give microfinance increased emphasis, given that
2005 is the UN's year of microcredit. Also, the Commission for Africa has
called for a focus on providing access to financial services.
Obviously, microfinance is just one tool, but it has a place alongside all
the others. I hope that the Prime Minister will raise the importance of
microfinance at the G8 summit. I have heard that President Chirac is going
to do so: perhaps the two men will be able to reach an accord on this
matter.
Mrs.
Nadine Dorries (Mid-Bedfordshire) (Con):
I know parts of Africa very well. I lived in Zambia, and I taught and was
married there. I had many African friends, and some friendships were so
close that one family named their daughter after my family. Her name was
Cleopatra Dorries Chisoko. Her christening was a great family celebration
in the traditional African manner, but unfortunately Cleo, her parents and
her siblings are all dead now. I want to concentrate my speech on the
blight of AIDS in Africa.
I was
last in Zambia in 1985, when the country was populated by a healthy
community of 6 million people, who were expected to live to about the age
of 60. Now, the population is 34 million, with a life expectancy of 34,
and the WHO projects that it will be 24 by 2010. Today, George Bush
promised a three-pronged attack on Africa's problems, including funding
for malaria, schools and empowering African women. But what is the point
of education and empowering women if they are expected to live to an
average age of 24?
Africa is
beautiful, and has the added advantages of immense agricultural potential
and vast mineral wealth. It has locusts on one side and drought on the
other, but down the middle to the south coast it has a bread basket
capable of feeding the whole of the African continent. Africa has failed
not because of the African citizen, but because of a failed civil society
that has allowed widespread corruption, excessive urbanisation and a near
total collapse of any kind of service designed to ameliorate the condition
of the common African man. It is a real crime that we have let that
happen.
Do
African states with populations the size of two or three UK counties
really need international scale airports, state of the art radar systems,
helicopter gunships, Mercedes and all the trappings of a grand state? I
think not, but that is what aid has been spent on.
I
congratulate the Prime Minister on his Commission for Africa and the
report "Our Common Interest". It is a worthy document and obviously
compiled in good faith. However, the important section is 9.3.2, entitled
"Aid: the scope of enhanced effectiveness", which recommends:
"to improve
the quality of aid annual discussion should take place between the
development ministers of the OECD countries and the African finance
ministers along with representatives of civil society and international
organisations".
Such
future vision is well enough, but does not satisfy the need for immediate
action. Do we want thousands of people to die while thousands of others
meet to discuss the problem? Minutes of meetings cannot be eaten and they
have no effect on viruses.
Without
doubt, it is the moral duty of this country to provide all the aid and
assistance that we can to Africa. Certain issues can and must be addressed
immediately, such as the transmission of the HIV virus from mother to
child. Some 2.2 million children are born with HIV and less than 1 per
cent. receive treatment. The agony of that fact is that the mother to
child transmission can be prevented by the use of antiretroviral drugs
during pregnancy. Those drugs should be made available with immediate
effect. That is the only way that we can combat AIDS in the future
generation. How can a country elevate itself out of poverty when its
children are dying? Africa must have the drugs that it needs.
Two
medium-sized Indian drug manufacturers recently made an offer to Médecins
sans Frontières to provide antiretroviral drugs for Africa at $350 per
person a year. In this country, they cost $12,000 to $15,000 a year. On
the admission of the Indian drug companies, that would still lead to a
healthy profit. Some 28 million people in Africa need drugs, which at that
price would cost $9 billion. How much is a life worth?
One of
the people who runs those Indian drug companies says:
"I am not a
westerner marketing drugs for western markets. I represent the Third World
and its needs and aspirations. I also represent the capabilities of a
country with a population of a billion. Please do not link up the problems
of the Third World and India with those of the West. We haven't broken any
laws . . . the main reason for reasonable drug prices in India is the
absence of monopoly because of the Patents Act 1970."
If the
Indian continent, which is as poor as Africa, can produce drugs at cost
price for its people, why cannot that happen in Africa? Why could not
Africa operate outside the drugs patent and produce drugs for its people?
The operation could be controlled and administered by NGOs.
I do not
have much time left, so I shall cut my remarks short. We have all received
the report by the Commission for Africa, which talks of power
partnerships, comprehensive strategies and professional leadership
incentives. What do the people who wrote that report think those words
mean to someone lying in hospital under a blanket? Are those words an
epitaph for the Chisoko family? We have all heard the words "Hakuna matata"
from the Disney film. Where I lived in Zambia, the phrase was "Aziko ndaba".
Those words are a tribute to the African people, who spend their lives
saying, "No worries, no problems." Those words have been consigned to a
Disney film now, because I doubt that anybody in Africa any longer says "Aziko
ndaba".
Mr.
Tobias Ellwood (Bournemouth, East) (Con):
I am pleased to have the opportunity to speak in this important debate.
Although time is running short, I should like to relate the experiences
that I gained when I served in the military forces in a number of war
zones to the subjects covered today. Debt write-off, investment and
improved trade will certainly help a number of countries, but many of the
countries that I visited have been at war for 50 years, and we need to go
back to the heart of the problem, which was caused when those countries
were created in the first place or, indeed, when Europe entered Africa and
decided to carve up the continent.
We forget
that between the 12th and the 16th centuries, which are often considered
to be Africa's most historic centuries, kingdoms were created and
democracies existed, even if in basic form, and there was certainly a
hierarchy of power and a basic form of government. I appreciate that we
are more familiar with the slave trade and so on, how the economy changed
and how African empires were eroded.
My view
is that the Berlin conference changed the lines on the map, as European
states laid claim to the continent with little regard to historical
borders or boundaries or the religious groupings and varying customs and
languages that already existed. The world wars blurred those lines as
well. In some instances, there is a fundamental case for reviewing the
borders so that they better represent the geographical areas that unite
separate religions, traditions and manageable democracies. As foreign
pressures were lifted in the 1960s, when those countries became
independent, all the community and regional identities were allowed to
grow once again but they were contained or split by the borders that were
left behind by Europe.
If we
look at other examples around the world, we see something similar. In
Afghanistan—it is difficult to see where this will take us—there are
Pashtuns, Tajiks and the Uzbeks, all with different identities but
confined by one country, yet there is perhaps reason to give them a
certain degree of autonomy. Yugoslavia and Bosnia are other examples—as,
indeed, is Iraq, with the Kurds, Sunnis and Shi'ites. Czechoslovakia is
perhaps the best example of how a country can divide itself into more
manageable democracies.
It is
worth considering what is the definition of a country and the fact that
the extent to which countries are manageable depends on their size,
terrain, religions, ethnic groupings, population and the balance of local,
regional and national powers. Africa is no different, and I am concerned
about those areas that have been engaged in civil war for 50 years. Ethnic
tension and religious conflict has not altered simply because of the
confines of the boundaries that have been left behind by European powers.
Chad, Congo and Sudan are examples of such countries.
I
certainly believe that we need to reconsider the borders in Africa itself.
Are they appropriate; or do they need review? I am not saying that any
western power should walk in there, but I was very much part of the Dayton
peace accord, which gave the countries involved the opportunity to sit
down and address their concerns, look at the ethnic groupings and then
come up with something that would work for them, and what I am suggesting
is that that should be an option in addition to the extra aid that we are
proposing and the cut in debts and increased trade that is being offered.
I have
heard nothing about that suggestion, and it would be interesting to find
out whether the G8 would consider it—after all, it was Europe that went
into Africa in the first place and drew the original borders with little
regard to what was already there—otherwise I am concerned that we will
have a similar debate next time Britain has the presidency of the G8 in
five years' time.
David
Mundell (Dumfriesshire, Clydesdale and Tweeddale) (Con):
My speech will only take a minute. I want to pass on a message from Steven
Nyuon, who came to speak at the 60th anniversary service for Christian Aid
held in Dumfries. Some of the people at the service said that it
recognised failure, because Christian Aid was set up in 1945 with many of
the same goals for making poverty history that 60 years later have still
not been achieved, but Steven, a Sudanese gentleman, gave us hope—the sort
of hope that we have heard from others today. He did not say, "Give us
money," or "Change the world." He said, "Give us the tools to help us set
ourselves free." He gave a simple example: the fishing rods and nets that
had been used in his part of Sudan to build businesses and feed people.
That
short message, which concludes the Back-Bench contributions, is one of the
most important things that we can take from our debate. People can set
themselves free if we give them the opportunity to do so.
Mark
Simmonds (Boston and Skegness) (Con):
The debate is timely and important, primarily but not exclusively because
of the G8 meeting next week, and also because of the UK presidency of the
European Union, the millennium development summit in September, and the
World Trade Organisation meeting in Hong Kong in December. The year 2005
is vital for Africa. The Trade Justice Movement and Make Poverty History
are to be congratulated on keeping the issues at the forefront of the
political agenda.
Accepted
analysis is that the House is at its best when being confrontational, yet
despite its consensual nature the debate has been informed, intelligent
and constructive. The high quality of the debate was begun by the
Secretary of State in his excellent opening remarks and continued in the
response from my hon. Friend the Member for Sutton Coldfield (Mr.
Mitchell), the shadow Secretary of State. Both of them made excellent
speeches.
There
were other excellent contributions and I shall highlight a few of them.
The hon. Member for Foyle (Mark Durkan) made an impressive maiden speech
which was informed, fluent and passionate. He entwined African and
Northern Ireland issues in a skilful way. The whole House will know that
he has made significant contributions to peace and progress in Northern
Ireland. His personal courage is recognised in all parts of the House. I
look forward to further significant contributions from him.
My right
hon. Friend the Member for Bracknell (Mr. Mackay), in a typically polished
contribution, highlighted education and health as important building
blocks in alleviating poverty. He also focused on the injustices currently
being perpetrated in Zimbabwe, and rightly emphasised the failures of the
African Union and South Africa to do more to put pressure on Mugabe to end
his tyrannical actions, which damage the rest of Africa, too, especially
as significant progress is being made elsewhere on the continent.
My hon.
Friend the Member for Banbury (Tony Baldry) has tremendous knowledge in
this field and admirably chaired the Select Committee on International
Development in the last Parliament. He highlighted climate change and
conflict, which afflict the poorest communities. The poorest people suffer
the most. He rightly highlighted the importance of the interrelationship
between those factors.
My right
hon. Friend the Member for Hitchin and Harpenden (Mr. Lilley) made a lucid
speech, drawing on his African experience. He rightly highlighted the
damage to the alleviation of poverty in Africa that could be done by the
anti-free trade movement and the anti-globalisation movement. He
highlighted the necessity for us to open our markets in Europe and
articulated the failings of the protectionist vision and the necessity to
remove obstacles to wealth creation and the encouragement of private
investment.
My hon.
Friend the Member for Buckingham (John Bercow) gave a typically articulate
and powerful speech, reflecting on the terrible problems that afflict
Darfur at present, with passionate and detailed examples. He will be aware
that my views on that issue coincide with his. It is a great shame that
the international community has not done more; it is attempting to do too
little, too late.
It is our
long-term objective to ensure that developing African countries graduate
from aid dependency to functioning democracies with successful economies.
Like the Government, we are committed to working towards the 2013 UN
target of spending 0.7 per cent. of national income on aid. It is clear
that well spent aid works, and the best example of that is the eradication
of smallpox. British aid, especially, has helped to immunise millions of
children against polio.
My hon.
Friend the Member for Sutton Coldfield rightly highlighted the fact that
the quality of aid is just as important as the quantity, so the Government
have an obligation to ensure that UK taxpayers' money is spent effectively
and transparently. The European Union is currently widely recognised as
one of the least effective aid channels because only 52 per cent. of EU
overseas development aid goes to low-income countries. My hon. Friend the
Member for Tewkesbury (Mr. Robertson) rightly raised that point in his
thoughtful contribution.
Announcements have been made today on progress made with Nigeria's debt
relief, and some of the ongoing issues regarding debt relief were
highlighted by the hon. Member for Perth and North Perthshire (Pete
Wishart). Before the HIPC initiative, heavily-indebted countries were
spending more on debt service than health and education combined, as the
right hon. Member for Oldham, West and Royton (Mr. Meacher) rightly
pointed out, although he is sadly no longer in the Chamber.
Money
saved through the cancellation of debt must be used effectively to
alleviate poverty. Well managed debt relief has produced many success
stories—Uganda and Mozambique are but two recent examples. We support the
HIPC initiative and the principle of 100 per cent. cancellation of debts
to multilateral institutions. We welcome the debt reduction packages that
have been approved for 27 countries. However, responsible lending and
borrowing are vital to ensure that there is a sustainable end to the debt
crisis. The international credit standing of recipient countries must not
be compromised, and future loans must be monitored so that we do not have
a cycle of borrowing and debt cancellation.
My hon.
Friend the Member for Rochford and Southend, East (James Duddridge)
rightly highlighted the importance of trade. Although aid and debt relief
are necessary, economic development and international trade offer the best
hope of long-term sustainable solutions to poverty and suffering in
Africa. International trade has lifted up to 500 million people out of
poverty in China and south-east Asia. Much of that was achieved through an
export-orientated approach that exploited foreign investment to boost
local capacity and allow the countries to compete internationally. Not
only international trade is needed to maximise the benefits the benefits
that trade can bring to Africa, but trade in African domestic markets and
pan-African trade are needed too.
Sadly,
the protectionist trade policies exercised by the US and UN, such as
tariff escalation, which undermines private sector development and
diversification, have come at the expense of developing countries in
Africa. That is nothing short of a disgrace. For example, US cotton
subsidies mean that African farmers are competing not against US farmers,
but against the US Treasury. Developing countries' agricultural sectors
are being crippled because the EU dumps heavily subsidised commodities
that are sold at well below the cost of production. EU consumers and
taxpayers, via the common agricultural policy, are being forced to finance
policies that exacerbate and perpetuate poverty. Current trade
restrictions are the biggest impediment to economic advancement and
poverty reduction in the developing world.
Some
significant bodies believe that infant industry protection and bans on
imports into developing countries would help to stimulate their economies,
but history is littered with protectionist folly. Import substitution
policies insulate local manufacturers and producers from competition, so
local consumers consequently pay inflated prices for lower-quality goods
while the local industry is unable to sell in international markets. We
understand that free trade cannot happen immediately, but we are committed
to working towards genuine free and fairer trade for developing countries,
especially through the transition period.
My hon.
Friend the Member for Eddisbury (Mr. O'Brien) made a knowledgeable speech
in which he highlighted the fact that tackling preventable diseases such
as malaria, tuberculosis and HIV and educating and training Africans in
health care are essential if we are to end poverty. Disease hinders
economic activity. Both my hon. Friend the Member for South-West Surrey
(Mr. Hunt), in a moving and intelligent speech, and my hon. Friend the
Member for Mid-Bedfordshire (Mrs. Dorries), in a powerful contribution
that was allied to personal experience, rightly highlighted the necessity
to alleviate HIV/AIDS in Africa.
Many hon.
Members rightly highlighted the importance of education, as it is the
cornerstone for an economically prosperous society. We welcome the
progress made so far, in particular the removal of school fees in Kenya,
Uganda and Tanzania, but much more remains to be done.
Historically, African Governments have suffered from a lack of
accountability and a lack of institutions to facilitate a pluralistic
civil society, as well as endemic corruption. That has led to chronic
political instability and regressive economic performance, impoverishing
many millions of Africans. Corrupt leadership, combined with a history of
human rights abuses, inter-ethnic rivalries and, more recently, the HIV
pandemic, have left many parts of Africa lagging behind the rest of the
world in creating markets, stable societies, trading and improving the
macro and micro-economic well-being of its citizens. The developed world
is morally right to, and must, assist, but ultimately the solutions and
resolution lie with Africa itself.
The
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for International Development (Mr.
Gareth Thomas):
I join the
hon. Member for Boston and Skegness (Mark Simmonds) in paying tribute to
all hon. Members who spoke in this excellent debate. In particular, I
single out the strong and passionate speech by my right hon. Friend the
Member for Coatbridge, Chryston and Bellshill (Mr. Clarke). Ministers in
the Department for International Development do not have the same
opportunities as our colleagues to debate on the Floor of the House new
ideas for amendments to UK law. We look forward with relish to 20 January,
when he introduces his private Member's Bill, for further discussion of
his proposals.
I join
hon. Members in paying tribute to the excellent maiden speech of the hon.
Member for Foyle (Mark Durkan). We are all aware of his contribution to
Northern Irish policies. We look forward to his contributions to domestic
politics and, on the basis of his speech, to international debates, too. I
also pay tribute to the speech of my hon. Friend the Member for Calder
Valley (Chris McCafferty), who rightly reminded us of the need to continue
to focus on sexual and reproductive health issues.
There
were equally interesting speeches from Opposition Members. I pay tribute
not only to the hon. Member for Sutton Coldfield (Mr. Mitchell) for the
way in which he opened the debate, but also to the hon. Member for
Eddisbury (Mr. O'Brien) for the way in which he chairs the all-party
malaria group. I join others, too, in paying tribute to the excellent work
done by the hon. Member for Banbury (Tony Baldry) in chairing the Select
Committee on International Development, although I confess that I am not
sure that I enjoyed appearing before it. I also pay tribute to the
continuing eloquence of the hon. Member for Buckingham (John Bercow) in
rightly reminding us of the need to continue to focus international
attention on what is going on in the Sudan. On the Liberal Benches, I pay
tribute to the hon. Member for Mid-Dorset and North Poole (Annette Brooke)
for her continued championing of micro-credit issues.
All hon.
Members alluded to the fact that Africa is a remarkable continent. It has
much to celebrate and is, as my hon. Friend the Member for Glasgow, North
(Ann McKechin) said, a continent of breathtaking beauty and stunning
scenery. It is home and birthplace to great talent and huge ability, from
the excellent Haile Gebrselassie—one of the world's greatest athletes—to
arguably the most influential and impressive politician of our time, the
incomparable Nelson Mandela. However, as all hon. Members also
highlighted, it is a continent that remains scarred by terrible poverty
and savaged by the scourge of HIV and AIDS, and its development remains
inhibited by the legacy of conflict—in some cases, ongoing conflict—by
unfair trading rules, by appalling debt and by weak governance.
What is
also clear is that Africa deserves our support. For the peoples of a
continent to be so disadvantaged in the 21st century is an outrage. That
demands, as the Commission for Africa made clear, a big push for Africa
now, with rich countries, such as ours, supporting an African-led agenda.
The Commission for Africa also made it clear that its principal demand for
African Governments is for them to build clean and accountable
Governments—a recommendation that we strongly support—while donors must
ensure that aid to Africa is doubled, that expenditure on education,
health, AIDS and infrastructure is significantly increased, that there is
more radical debt relief and trade reform and, indeed, that the
international finance facility is launched.
Our job
now, as the Prime Minister made clear as president of the G8 and the
European Union, is to maintain the momentum of the commission's report,
and to help ensure, through the Gleneagles summit next week, the UN summit
in September and the World Trade Organisation ministerial meeting in
December, that the international community continues to make an
appropriate response. We remain committed to doing our bit.
My right
hon. Friend the Member for Oldham, West and Royton (Mr. Meacher)
highlighted the size of US aid to Africa. He might be interested to know
that, almost as he was speaking, President Bush was announcing plans to
more than double aid to Africa by 2010, which I am sure that all Members
will agree is an important and welcome step that will create real momentum
for a successful outcome at Gleneagles. That, combined with commitments
from the European Union, Japan and Canada, means that the G8 and EU will
more than double aid to Africa by 2010, increasing it by some $25 billion,
as called for by the Commission for Africa. That will also put us within
reach of our goal of an extra $50 billion a year in total aid for all
developing countries.
We shall,
of course, continue to work hard right up to the Gleneagles summit for the
best possible package for Africa. We are making progress on aid, and on
multilateral debt relief. Hon. Members asked me about a particular deal on
Nigeria's debt. That deal will see the write-off of approximately $18.6
billion of that country's debt. That again is a significant step in the
right direction.
HIV and
AIDS are a continuing priority of our presidencies of the G8 and EU. Last
year, we set aside some £1.5 billion for HIV and AIDS expenditure—almost a
doubling of our commitment. We also announced a doubling of funding to the
global fund. We are hosting the global fund replenishment conference in
September. In addition to its work on AIDS, the fund is a key vehicle for
scaling up our support for tuberculosis and malaria, the other two key
poverty diseases facing Africa. I welcome the fact that the number of
people in sub-Saharan Africa with access to antiretroviral drugs has
trebled in the past 12 months, but, as many hon. Members have said, much
more needs to be done to fight the HIV/AIDS pandemic.
We will
of course continue to champion improvements in governance by using our aid
budget as well as ministerial and diplomatic effort, and by seeking to
improve government standards and to consolidate and expand the African
peer review mechanism. We want to ensure greater transparency in public
revenues, to empower judiciaries, to create more and better free public
media and to support the African Union and other key pan-African
institutions.
We shall
also seek to ensure an ambitious outcome from the Doha development round.
We want to agree on a date for the end to export subsidies. The 2003 CAP
reform package was a good initial reform package, but, as many hon.
Members have rightly said, we need to go further. We are working for an
immediate extension of quota-free and duty-free access to all exports from
sub-Saharan Africa. We are also working to ensure that restrictive rules
of origin do not prevent countries from taking advantage of preference
schemes that exist at the moment.
Much has
been made of the apparent consensus on these issues, and I, too, welcome
the support from the Conservative Front Bench for the Government's
objectives at Gleneagles, in New York and in Hong Kong. However, we still
remember their halving of the proportion of national income that was spent
on development and assistance during the 18 years that they were last in
power. We remember their failure to secure meaningful CAP reform. We also
remember how many in their ranks did not seem that interested in good
governance when apartheid was in full swing. But to mention those things
would be churlish, and I am not that sort of politician.
At
Gleneagles next week, we shall have a real opportunity to build on the
progress that the G8 has already made in confronting the challenges facing
Africa and the developing world. Since Birmingham, back in 1998, we have
seen considerable progress on debt relief, the launch of the global fund,
the polio eradication initiative, the Africa action plan, and the
education for all fast-track initiative. All were made possible though G8
support. Already this year we have seen significant commitments on
additional resources for aid and debt relief, far beyond what cynics might
have predicted this time last year.
Next week
presents a huge opportunity for the leaders of the G8 to give a political
boost to make the 2005 agenda a great success and to create that big push
for Africa on peace and security, on governance, on investing in the basic
services on which people depend, on progress on trade, and, we hope, on
further commitments on the resources to finance these undertakings. Not
only is it morally right to support Africa; ultimately it is in Britain's
self-interest. Our humanity, our internationalism and our belief in social
justice demand that we respond to the needs of Africa's people. As the
Prime Minister said at the launch of the Commission for Africa—
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